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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the global radio alliance

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need your help to get to the year 1985.

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you are listening to fate to black with

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all right good evening

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fade black bespoke radio

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for the

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today's monday june 28 2021

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180 days into the new year

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only 185 days left we are live from a

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bunker a bunker that is somewhere in the

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middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location but

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it is beautiful how you doing how you

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oh man i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra

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the planets i'm your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how are you doing you know i'm good

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you know i'm good you know i'm good a

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few hours ago i was on a plane

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unbelievable unbelievable weekend uh

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we'll talk about

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all of that in just a minute

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i mean i feel pretty good a little loopy

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a little loopy no sleep uh no sleep

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that jet lag is real i couldn't

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uh uh i couldn't i couldn't sleep in

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i was going to bed late and uh you know

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indy uh for two days and uh three days

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oh man all right but it's all good it's

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all good i slept on the plane

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a little bit all right but uh i'm back

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and uh

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now look we all know

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what went down last week last thursday

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uh which was the 24th anticipating the

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and i'm looking and then i get

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a little insider information that said

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reports coming out within the hour i

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said okay so i tweeted i said permission

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yes boom i tweeted that out

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called uh john greenwald and then i uh

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maybe dolan was first i don't know but i

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called them both from the car

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and uh and i had got an email from linda

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she was asking me what do i know and

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the report gets released and now i'm

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and boom cell service cut off and that's

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what they do when they fire up those

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and and i and and i got like a paragraph

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in uh like page two whatever

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i landed in indy and you know now i'm

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family and things all of this you guys

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i was traveling and i couldn't get to it

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now i'm you know

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i've got to say hello to everybody and

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i'm looking at my phone i'm like the

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report the report

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oh it was it was it was not

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fair it was not fair so finally

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um i made it uh up to my bedroom

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and uh was able to uh read the report

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and yes you saw the tweets that i mean

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so immediately i thought about this week

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and what we were going to do it's such

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you on monday i know it's busy man

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he said no let's do this so i got john

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uh john greenwald here uh for tonight's

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and then uh you know we're gonna be

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i want his analysis on everything but

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he's got a different take

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uh that doesn't necessarily have to do

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with the report it does

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but we're going to be talking about that

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tonight too so his full analysis

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is coming up at the bottom of the hour

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tomorrow night

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billy carson is here and

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and billy is here um again this is ua

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ptf week right we're all

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looking at this and trying to figure

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stuff out bringing billy in

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uh to discuss that but also

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disclosure101

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and we're going to have our uh big

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on july 17th uh which is just in a

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couple of weeks now

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um and that is our disclosure conference

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his take now

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you know what's the status of disclosure

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so tomorrow night's disclosure

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one-on-one with billy carson

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wednesday night reuben langdon returns

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now reuben's back to discuss uh the new

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with ed interview with ed and

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which is sensational but reuben was also

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the producer of uh

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the original press club event so

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he's got he's got a take on things too

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so reuben is going to be here wednesday

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thursday night linda moulton howe

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is here for her take on the uaptf report

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right after my dad's memorial and we

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and i told her i said you know what

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save everything for thursday night linda

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you and i can discuss it right now but

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no i don't want to i want to save

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everything for thursday

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and she actually thanked me for that i

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so she's gonna come in strong

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on thursday night so that is that is one

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heck of a week coming up on fade to

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and i'm excited for all of you i'm

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excited for this community

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and uh wow wow what a week so there you

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no fader night this week instead it's

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now i just mentioned billy carson being

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on with us tomorrow night

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and it is this july 17th which is a

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that is the date for our forbidden

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disclosure online conference

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with richard dolan with linda molten

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howe lou elizondo

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nick pope billy carson and myself this

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is an 11 hour all day live event

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this is this may be the biggest event of

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the

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entire year it's really that simple

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tickets and info

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are available in the description box

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below if you're over on youtube

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we've got it up all over social media

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you can also go to jimmychurchradio.com

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and click and get your tickets you want

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to

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you this is the event if you're gonna do

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one thing all year it's this one

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okay all right i cannot wait for

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tomorrow night with billy

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this conference july 17th after

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everything that has gone down

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right richard linda lou nick and billy

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all in one place at the same time huge

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that's huge that's world class

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follow me on twitter at jchurchradio

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at j church radio start your your social

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media world

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with me right there at j church radio

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i just posted up in twitter um

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my mom yesterday

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the living room and she comes downstairs

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with a stack of stuff

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and it was things from the 80s

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and i things that i didn't even know

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that she had

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a stack of photographs so i've got

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copies of everything

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she's got the originals but i took

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pictures and i posted up this this was a

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of me posing for a moser guitars

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ad and this is 1985.

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look at that and if you want to see it

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it's right there cigarette and all and

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the funny thing about this picture

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because uh this is what is strange this

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is 1985

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documented 1985.

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and my mom also brought down stairs

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the my original eight by ten

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senior year uh picture

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for the yearbook and uh

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but she had the eight by ten you know

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they crop it for the yearbook but this

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was like the full

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and i haven't seen that i don't even

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ever seen it to be honest with you um

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but anyway that picture was taken in

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four years later i looked like this you

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put the two side by side i have no idea

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how i managed to grow uh two and a half

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feet of hair

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i can't do it now for sure but if you

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want to check that out

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it is over it's pretty funny it's pretty

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funny that's the 1980s man

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that is the sunset strip live and well

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cowboy boots

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yeah an eagle guitar

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an eagle face neil moser built the best

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guitars anyway

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so that's over at twitter if you want to

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check that out

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let's get to the breaking news tributes

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have poured in for former

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alaska senator mike gravel who died

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at the age of 91 after spending his

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political career posing america's

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foreign wars military spending

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and the surveillance state now gravel

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died at his home

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right here in seaside california on

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saturday and

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he was on one of my panels uh many years

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ago

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and uh was a real advocate for ufo and

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et disclosure and i

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i had i had the opportunity uh to sit

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down with the senator

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and uh talked to him at length privately

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and he really

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understood the ufo subject and knew

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a lot about a lot and he was just

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amazing he was fascinating

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and uh very distinguished

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just an incredible guy and he has now

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left this earth

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at the age of 91 and it was an honor and

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a privilege to have met him

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and to uh uh to have the opportunity to

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sit down and

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and pick his brain at uh uh for

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i mean i'm gonna say we probably talked

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for a couple of hours

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and uh i'm very sad that uh he passed

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away on saturday

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a new analysis of known exoplanets

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has revealed that earth-like conditions

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on potentially

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habitable planets may be much rarer than

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previously thought

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the work focuses on the conditions

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required for oxygen-based

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photosynthesis to develop on a planet

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which would enable complex biospheres of

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the type found here on earth

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the study is published today in the

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monthly notices of the royal

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astronomical society you need to go and

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check that out

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now facebook

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back in the news facebook

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vaulted above the 1 trillion market cap

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after a federal judge in washington dc

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dismissed the lawsuit by 48 attorneys

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general of the united states

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and territories accusing it of

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monopolistic behavior

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oh wow

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right right i'm going to do a deep dive

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and i'll get back to you on this one

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tomorrow the news just broke right

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before the show

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let's uh get the show crack and happy

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birthday to today

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elon musk elon musk

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is fitty unbelievable mel

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brooks today

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95 john cusack

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today 55.

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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patrick morita 1932 to 2005 died at the

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age of 74.

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patrick was known for his roles he's a

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funny dude that was a

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funny man his roles

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i mean it's crazy when you think about

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it arnold

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arnold takahashi arnold takashi on happy

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days

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mr mayagi in uh the karate kid

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captain sam pack on mash

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i do you remember that i do ah

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in samford and son politically incorrect

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mike wu in the mystery files of shelby

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wu

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remember that and the emperor of china

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in mulan

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and mulan 2. patrick died of kidney

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failure

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in las vegas nevada

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at the age of 73

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happy birthday patrick on this day in

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history

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otd 1997

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mike tyson bites evander holyfield's ear

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chews it up swallows it in the third

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round of their heavyweight

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rematch i saw that live i was with doug

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aldridge we were over at uh oh we were

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at chris

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frazier's house the drummer his

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apartment in hollywood

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we went there for the pay-per-view i

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think keith st john was there

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everybody from doug's band uh

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was there and we saw that live

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ah that's all i'm gonna say that was

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that was a strange night fader fact

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there is such a thing

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and it tastes exactly like pink

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watermelon

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but it's yellow

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and that is your fader fact tonight very

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special guest

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john greenwald john greenwald of the

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black vault

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he is here with his analysis of the

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uaptf

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report tomorrow night billy carson joins

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us for disclosure 101

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wednesday night reuben langdon returns

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for the

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season two of interview with ed e d

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extra dimensional and of course we're

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going to be talking about disclosure in

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the uaptf as well thursday night

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linda moulton howe is here for her take

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on the uaptf report big week on the show

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it's been a big week for

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all of us in this community so there you

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go all right let me hit this

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cass just posted in twitter yellow

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watermelon who knew

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right man how fat i just

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said the fader fact and you've got the

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watermelon up kaz

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you're unbelievable thank you for that

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that

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is really really cool yeah yellow

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watermelon who knew

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all right um i want to talk a little bit

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um

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about my weekend because

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it's hard for me to digest

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just how much stuff we got in i arrived

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friday night so nothing happened on

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friday

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woke up saturday morning and

427
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my mom is going to donate

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my father's pickup truck nice truck well

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maintained

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like a chevy colorado king cab red

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nice nice to

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a big cat rescue

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okay now where she's been volunteering

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and working at for

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uh i think uh just over 15 years

436
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and my brother kevin had been there my

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mom has told me about it

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countless times and i just it just

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didn't soak in

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what she was saying big cat rescue and

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then of course joe exotic

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tiger king that stuff comes out and i

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talked to my mom about that and

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and she's like oh no no we're not that

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um

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right there about an hour outside of

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indianapolis

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and uh so that's what we did on saturday

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morning so we drive

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uh out there and uh

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my mom hands over the paperwork for the

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truck

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and um and then she's gonna take me to

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go see some cats

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and i'm i'm here to tell you i didn't i

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didn't know what to expect

457
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:01,760
and whatever you have in your mind

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00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,559
about this kind of thing you know from

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00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:06,400
like joe exotic no that

460
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,720
this is not that that is a bunch of meth

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00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:12,720
heads that had big cats

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00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:17,280
and and that was just a bad scene anyway

463
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:20,480
this was incredible and i've got some

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pictures and i've got some video i'll

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post it over

466
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,200
uh the next couple of days but these

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cats

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have their own each one it's just a huge

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i don't know how many acres i don't it's

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00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:33,840
it's got to be

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think um

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i was only in a small section of it and

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where i was

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00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,520
i got to see about 15 or 20 big

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big cats i'm guessing it could have been

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more

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but each one of them had like an like an

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acre to themselves

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and they don't have human contact so

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00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,000
there's none of that going there's no

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00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:01,919
posing for pictures and

482
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,720
no it's not about that and these cats

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00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,600
are happy

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00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:08,640
and live an incredible life they're all

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rescues

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00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,120
you know you can't let them back into

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the wild but but they need to

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to live a life of dignity and and and

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they do

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there so anyway i'm i'm hanging out with

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these big cats

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holy mackerel i can't i can't i can't

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put it into words

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and uh one of the videos uh there's a

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there's a couple of cool videos and

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and things and some stupid selfies all

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you know a fence between us

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but these cats are happy um

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uh the life of riley they've got it

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going on

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all of the handlers are you know

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come from you know they're in college

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and it's a whole different

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thing there um than your vision of

505
00:25:01,750 --> 00:24:58,559
of uh these big cat rescues anyway

506
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,760
this this so i'm i'm walking around

507
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,600
i'm going to post this video tomorrow

508
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:05,200
and i didn't have the time to post it

509
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,559
today

510
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,520
but gage so i'm going to post this

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picture of gage tomorrow so i walk up

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and gage is just laying there

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and uh you know he's happy he's cool

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big and he was young i think he was like

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he's nine months old or something less

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than a year old

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but he's like 500 pounds right he's

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just giant and he's laying there

519
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you know just licking his paws and happy

520
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handsome good looking perfect

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just beautiful handsome and i go

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gage and he looks at me

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and he gets up and i say gage come here

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buddy and he walks right up to the fence

525
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and is purring and and and talking to me

526
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:56,320
and i shot a video of that

527
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:59,200
and i'm gonna post that uh tomorrow but

528
00:26:03,350 --> 00:25:59,919
it's it's

529
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,360
incredible to be that close uh to these

530
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,880
these big cats and i can't wait to go

531
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:07,279
back gotta thank my mom i also want to

532
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,159
uh

533
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,960
i hope he's listening my drummer from

534
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:11,840
high school

535
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,039
who i've known since we were wee lads

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00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:17,840
i think we met when i was uh 14 or 15

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years old

538
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:21,840
jerry reese camp uh came by i hadn't

539
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,159
seen jerry since probably 1995

540
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:27,039
1996 but he came by to my father's

541
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,760
memorial

542
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:29,600
and i was able to sit down for an hour

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00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:30,799
or two

544
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,320
with jerry and get caught up on life um

545
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:36,400
he's he's still playing he's one of the

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00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:37,360
great drummers

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00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:38,960
uh period uh one of the greatest

548
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,880
musicians i've ever known

549
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,120
but i got to hang out with jerry and

550
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,960
that was incredible and then we uh we

551
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,480
had a dinner party

552
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:48,559
uh for friends and family and my friend

553
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:49,520
from bell labs

554
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,880
dwayne fortune uh came by

555
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,200
uh to say hello and i was able to see

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00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:56,960
dwayne i haven't seen dwayne since

557
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,159
you know 1985 and uh

558
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,640
getting getting caught up but that was

559
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,679
incredible

560
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,080
and we had a really great dinner party

561
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,919
and all the everybody i can't

562
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:10,320
name everybody that was there but you

563
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,360
know who you are

564
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,320
and it was just special to get everybody

565
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,559
together it was family and friends and

566
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,919
my mom

567
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:20,720
and wow and and most of everybody that

568
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,279
was there

569
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,440
you know most of us haven't seen each

570
00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:26,320
other in in many many many years

571
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:28,000
and to hear the stories and and

572
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:29,520
everybody getting caught up it was

573
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:30,640
incredible

574
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,840
and then after my dad's memorial

575
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:34,240
yesterday

576
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:35,600
looking out the window and everything

577
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,279
was cool and

578
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:39,520
i looked out and there was this gray

579
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:41,919
storm coming across

580
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,799
it turned out to be like a monsoon rain

581
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,640
sideways rain

582
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,520
and it was it was really really cool it

583
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:51,279
was

584
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:54,320
i'm serious too uh to have that happen

585
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:54,720
it was

586
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:58,720
just want to wrap this up

587
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:02,080
uh my brother david uh and and my

588
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,120
brother kevin both

589
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,520
uh complete troublemakers and i had so

590
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,360
much fun with them this weekend

591
00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:10,080
but uh uh i was crying about white

592
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,600
castle i'm like man i'm on a plane

593
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,960
tomorrow how did i get through this

594
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,840
weekend

595
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,640
you know i i didn't do waffle house

596
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,159
didn't do anything

597
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,679
and and now here it is and then uh david

598
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:24,799
unbenounced to me

599
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,320
ordered me 15 double

600
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,559
cheeseburgers from white castle and had

601
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:32,240
them delivered to the house

602
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:36,880
posted pictures of it yesterday and uh

603
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:39,919
i did what i could i

604
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:42,720
paid my respect to the great state of

605
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:44,000
indiana and plowed through

606
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,760
as many of those as i could we all did

607
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,440
it was great and thank you david for

608
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:48,640
doing that

609
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,520
and uh you and chrissy are amazing kevin

610
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:53,600
and chris you guys are amazing my mom

611
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:56,720
sharon you are amazing and oh and one of

612
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:57,440
our neighbors

613
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,200
growing up this is 1974

614
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:04,880
nancy bill and nancy and they lived uh

615
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,600
between my parents and my house and uh

616
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:09,360
it's a long story but they lived in

617
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:10,399
between

618
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:13,919
i hadn't seen nancy since

619
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,240
she moved and uh her and bill moved to

620
00:29:21,310 --> 00:29:18,799
florida in like 1976

621
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,320
and and there she was that was

622
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,440
incredible

623
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,520
to think about that 45 years she still

624
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,279
looks great nancy if you're listening i

625
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,039
think she's on a plane but

626
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:31,840
um wow it was great seeing you too all

627
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,480
right

628
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,640
well there you go that was my weekend

629
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,399
i'm here i'm back

630
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:39,120
i didn't have any time to do that ufo

631
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,520
stuff

632
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,000
all weekend but we're gonna do it this

633
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:44,000
week for sure tonight

634
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,399
very special guest john greenwald is

635
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,080
here from the black vault

636
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,000
tomorrow night billy carson again

637
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,679
disclosure 101

638
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,919
and the ua ptf report wednesday night

639
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,360
reuben langdon

640
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,760
returns for season two of interview with

641
00:30:03,190 --> 00:29:58,559
ed

642
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:03,200
going to be talking about the ua ptf

643
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:03,919
report

644
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,159
then a very special show on thursday

645
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,399
night because it's not fader night

646
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:11,200
it's linda moulton howe and she is going

647
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:12,000
to be here

648
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:15,600
and give us her take on the uaptf

649
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:18,159
report there you go i am your host jimmy

650
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:19,200
church

651
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:22,880
and uh i'm back i'm cool i'm ready

652
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,679
let's do this man we've got a great week

653
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,120
coming up on the show

654
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,200
right after the break john greenwald of

655
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,559
the black vault

656
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,399
all of this on the game changer network

657
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:34,799
and kgra

658
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the planet oh thank you race racy hobbs

659
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,840
you better be listening race and thank

660
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:42,399
you bill

661
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,840
too as well let's rock this i'm murals

662
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:47,039
jimmy church i'll be right back with

663
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:48,720
john greenwald after this short break

664
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733
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future of our country and where we're

734
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:04,240
headed do you wonder about the food

735
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:05,120
supply

736
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:09,280
chain could be disastrous

737
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,440
and they usually occur with little

738
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,679
warning that's why the smartest thing

739
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:14,720
you can do today

740
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,919
is to stockpile emergency food water

741
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:20,240
and other essentials i personally

742
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,359
recommend my

743
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,520
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744
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serving millions of customers for more

746
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,440
than a decade

747
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,760
in fact they're the only source my

748
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:34,399
family trusts for our preparedness plan

749
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,599
you should too right now save 20

750
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:40,159
off a full four week supply of delicious

751
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meals that provide

752
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:44,480
2 000 calories a day saving 20

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00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:47,599
helps too doesn't it especially now so

754
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,079
go to

755
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prepare with jimmy.com and get ready

756
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:53,919
that's prepare with jimmy.com

757
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,990
nine out of ten geneticists agree

758
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:07,750
fade to black is not

759
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,359
your father's radio show on the game

760
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:13,040
changer radio network

761
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,599
and kgra the planet

762
00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:19,680
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

763
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,960
you're listening to jimmy

764
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,240
churchradio.com

765
00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:27,119
what's up i'm chris what up this is

766
00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:31,480
jimmy church radio

767
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:44,550
[Music]

768
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:46,630
welcome back faded block i am your host

769
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,839
jimmy church

770
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,839
what a great week we've got coming up on

771
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,520
the show i'm trying to keep up with

772
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,160
john greenwald of the black vault and

773
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:56,800
his spectacular hosting but this week we

774
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,359
have

775
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,680
john greenwald here that's tonight

776
00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:01,599
tomorrow night billy carson wednesday

777
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,000
night

778
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,560
reuben langdon i bet you john's never

779
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,560
interviewed reuben i got that much on

780
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:08,720
john but thursday night

781
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:10,640
linda moulton howe was here we are

782
00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:13,920
talking about the ua ptf report all week

783
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,040
here on fade to black tonight is john

784
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,800
and he's here to give us his full

785
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,720
analysis on everything and i'm not sure

786
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:21,839
if it's going to be what you think

787
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,920
that's the first part he posts a lot he

788
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,560
writes a lot of articles so you may

789
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,079
you may know but there's another

790
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,320
document too tonight that he has

791
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,920
uh written about we're going to talk

792
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,920
about that too as well

793
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,240
and he started the black vault back in

794
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:39,280
1996 at the tender age of five

795
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,720
and he was tapping in back then uh to

796
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,640
groups like the cia the fbi and the

797
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,880
pentagon the air force the army the navy

798
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:49,200
the air force the marines

799
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:52,400
and uh i think uh i think the coast

800
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:53,839
guard i think he was hitting into the

801
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,560
coast guard too as well the nsa the dia

802
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:59,040
and this is the deal i'm going to go

803
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:00,560
straight to it we all know

804
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,160
his website and depository of all things

805
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:07,280
foia is the black vault

806
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,560
but i'm going to go straight to it

807
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:11,040
tonight john thank you for coming in

808
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:13,520
very important night but back at the

809
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:16,800
tender age of five in 1996

810
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,000
i mean did you i honestly and i've asked

811
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
you this question so many times before

812
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:23,920
but this time it's framed a little bit

813
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:25,520
different my friend

814
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,040
yeah did you ever anticipate you

815
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:32,240
you know kicking the hornet's nest so

816
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:33,520
much

817
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,480
that somebody was going to be forced

818
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,119
into a position like they were too

819
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:41,040
to release this report and i'm going to

820
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,960
say you instigated enough

821
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:44,960
and started enough fires over the last

822
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,400
three years

823
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,960
that you are largely responsible for

824
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,800
this for this response i'm going to say

825
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:52,160
it you won't

826
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:55,760
but did you expect last friday to

827
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,960
ever have happened well first and

828
00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:00,400
foremost jimmy has always

829
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:03,119
it's great to be here i appreciate the

830
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,000
kind words i

831
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:06,160
personally don't feel i played a role in

832
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,359
that uh

833
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:10,720
but but as as you've noted yeah i i

834
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:14,960
don't give up and essentially stick with

835
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,960
profiling what they don't want to tell

836
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:18,000
you and that's always

837
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:21,119
been my my aim but with last

838
00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:24,720
friday i will admit no i didn't think

839
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,119
that that was going to happen i was

840
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,520
surprised it was on time

841
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:31,040
you know full disclosure i thought it

842
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:32,079
was going to be late i would have bet

843
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:33,119
money on it

844
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,119
and the fact that it was on time was

845
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,880
impressive the fact that they did it was

846
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:38,079
impressive

847
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,920
i do feel and we can get into this

848
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:41,359
whenever you want but i do feel it was

849
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:42,079
rushed

850
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,839
i do feel like it was started on monday

851
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,440
that's kind of how i felt just with the

852
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:48,880
way that the report was

853
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:51,520
and and if you look at reports by the

854
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,240
dni

855
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,720
and the what they put out it really

856
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:56,160
didn't resemble it

857
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,680
it's not that i've looked at every other

858
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,680
report that dni has ever created but i

859
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,200
did go through quite a few

860
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:03,599
when i had created a video uh early this

861
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,400
year

862
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,000
kind of saying okay look this is what we

863
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:08,000
can expect i mean it's going to be

864
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,200
likely short it's going to have

865
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:11,280
references to a classified annex

866
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:12,320
and that's what they're going to hide

867
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,200
behind and on the contrary it was short

868
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:17,839
but it just kind of like was not their

869
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,320
norm

870
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,560
it wasn't their standard so i do feel

871
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,400
that it was very rushed they needed to

872
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:24,800
fulfill the requirement that congress

873
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:27,520
put on them they did that and to their

874
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,320
credit it

875
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,280
was on time uh but no to go back to your

876
00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:32,640
question i did not

877
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:36,119
expect that day to come so

878
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,920
180 what four days ago or whatever it is

879
00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:41,920
i would have never thought that this uh

880
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:43,119
prior to that i would have never thought

881
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,240
that this would have happened

882
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:47,280
uh you and i full disclosure

883
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,960
uh on friday uh before the reports

884
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,720
released were talking to each other you

885
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:54,480
know it's okay greenwald what do you

886
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:55,760
know i don't know church what do you

887
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,160
know

888
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,280
were excited right

889
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,240
i mean it was it was you know we're

890
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:03,599
we're two kids again

891
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:06,800
you know we were excited about this um

892
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:11,119
the the thought of uh the secrecy behind

893
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,800
this and there wasn't

894
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:15,359
there wasn't any pre-leak right there

895
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:16,480
was nothing coming

896
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,599
in from official sources stating

897
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,599
the report is in a car in a locked

898
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,960
briefcase on its way to

899
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,640
you know there wasn't anything like that

900
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:27,760
at all we were kept in the dark

901
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:31,599
until there was an unknown an official

902
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,440
uh uh press release that

903
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:37,920
the document was in the oval office

904
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:38,640
right and

905
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,920
and and biden was being briefed on it

906
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:44,480
that caught me by surprise to have that

907
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:44,960
happen

908
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:48,319
first that did that surprise you well uh

909
00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:49,599
the only thing i saw was a

910
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,079
was a journalist from nexstar i believe

911
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:54,000
it was and she had tweeted out it was

912
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:55,599
the only one that i saw at least at the

913
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,560
time

914
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:58,240
that the white house was being briefed

915
00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:00,240
and i tweeted at her saying

916
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,680
you know hey thanks for the update

917
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,800
because that was something i had not

918
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:04,720
heard of but i said was the white house

919
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:05,599
briefed

920
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,440
responded saying that she was still

921
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:11,280
working on that but she would only say

922
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,839
at that point that the white house was

923
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,880
and i don't think she

924
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:17,200
or anybody actually said was biden

925
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,160
briefed

926
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:20,240
on that day on the report that was

927
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,359
coming out

928
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,280
however we have heard that you know

929
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,520
those high-level positions in biden

930
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,839
have likely been briefed in the past and

931
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:29,280
likely what they've been briefed

932
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,920
on would not be that drastically

933
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,680
different from what the general public

934
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:34,640
saw

935
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:38,160
on friday what was reported on but as

936
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,200
far as i know not

937
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:42,240
admitted to until sunday

938
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,359
of all days i was talking with the

939
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:46,640
office of the director of national

940
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,880
intelligence early sunday morning

941
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,640
and to their credit they were working

942
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:52,480
overtime they were actually responding

943
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:52,960
and

944
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:55,119
i got a couple couple quotes from them

945
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,400
on sunday morning

946
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:58,560
so i had written an article about that

947
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,160
kind of combining everything

948
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,640
in short the report yes was delivered

949
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,920
everybody assumed that there was a

950
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,839
classified version that ended up yes

951
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,040
that was true

952
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,880
i don't like to assume things though so

953
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,400
that's why i was kind of pressing it did

954
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,079
you guys have

955
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:14,560
an extra classified version of this

956
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,839
because

957
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,000
as i mentioned a couple moments ago when

958
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,079
dni does a report like this

959
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:22,160
they make reference to a classified

960
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,760
annex so they'll say like more

961
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,839
information in a classified annex

962
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,920
they didn't do that in this report so

963
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:29,280
that's why i was pushing the issue so

964
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,000
they admitted that

965
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:32,319
it was and one of the other quotes they

966
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:33,440
gave me was that the

967
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,359
the the conclusion

968
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:39,440
of the classified report and the scope

969
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:42,800
of it was exactly like the public report

970
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,480
so that what they were trying to say was

971
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:46,400
that they didn't hide any type of you

972
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,200
know

973
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,400
secret type of uh material that changed

974
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:52,560
what they believed about uaps in the

975
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,760
classified version

976
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:55,599
but lied to the general public and gave

977
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,880
them another version

978
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,720
rather they were saying it's it's it's

979
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,880
the same however

980
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:03,040
the classified version had sources and

981
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,920
methods

982
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,200
so they were saying that it was

983
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,560
classified because that they were

984
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:08,240
protecting sources and methods so

985
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,280
whether that be

986
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:12,000
the equipment that captured uap uh

987
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,520
personnel where they were

988
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,200
you know whatever that might be that

989
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,359
encompasses sources and methods

990
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:19,200
that was uh what they were saying that

991
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:22,560
was the only classified aspect about it

992
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:25,359
so one thing that i had done uh friday

993
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,760
was i

994
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,920
initiated a case not through the freedom

995
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:29,520
of information act

996
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,560
but rather a mandatory declassification

997
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,760
review case

998
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,839
and in short and plain english what that

999
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:37,280
does is it mandates

1000
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,480
a government agency to review a document

1001
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,640
for decl for potential declassification

1002
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,319
doesn't doesn't mean it's going to work

1003
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:46,960
but for potential declassification and

1004
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,119
so i initiated that case on friday did

1005
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,640
receive confirmation

1006
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:52,880
from odni today that they have started

1007
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,160
the case

1008
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,839
and in essence what it's doing is

1009
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:58,079
forcing odni to look at the classified

1010
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:58,960
version

1011
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,599
for potential public release so to do

1012
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,319
that through mdr versus foia

1013
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,000
it gives a little bit of a different

1014
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:07,599
tactic on my end

1015
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,400
to get it reviewed and to get at least

1016
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,359
some of it

1017
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:13,440
released so that was kind of the

1018
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,400
development through

1019
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,880
the weekend of confirming that it's

1020
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:17,839
definitely there

1021
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,319
initiating a case now the case is going

1022
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:21,839
and we'll see where we end up so that

1023
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,960
was your

1024
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,520
uh little uh teaser over the weekend

1025
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:27,520
right on monday

1026
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,119
unleash hell right well actually no

1027
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:33,280
no no no you've got you've got more

1028
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:34,560
you've got more oh

1029
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,960
uh i will say this there are over 45

1030
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:40,640
uh foia requests i've already filed

1031
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,079
based on that report okay

1032
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:44,319
okay so through about 14 different

1033
00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:45,119
agencies

1034
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,400
ish give or take so so what i did was i

1035
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:51,200
read it a few times i did the video i

1036
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:51,680
but i

1037
00:44:57,910 --> 00:44:55,280
i and then you dissect every word i mean

1038
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:57,920
you look at every single thing that they

1039
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:58,560
put

1040
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:02,640
as a piece of the puzzle it's it's

1041
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:04,079
essentially a chess piece that you can

1042
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,119
utilize

1043
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,680
and so i love playing chess and and grew

1044
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,880
up playing chess with my dad and

1045
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,920
grandfather

1046
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,400
that's literally how i approach

1047
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:14,000
researching and investigating government

1048
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:14,800
secrets is

1049
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,000
it is a game it is a strategic game

1050
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,720
and every document you get is a piece on

1051
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,400
a chess board and and that's what i go

1052
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,480
for and so i took that report

1053
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,160
and just went through it with fine tooth

1054
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:28,079
comb and seeing where i end up you know

1055
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,560
and

1056
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,040
those 45 plus cases that's actually more

1057
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:33,839
than that but those 45 plus cases

1058
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,640
uh it's not guaranteed to to come up

1059
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,960
with a gold nugget in each and every one

1060
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,200
but essentially you try and get as many

1061
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,119
pieces of the puzzle as you can

1062
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,000
to to essentially create more cases and

1063
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,839
more annoyance to the general uh

1064
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,760
uh population of the us government you

1065
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,240
know they've got a john greenwald poster

1066
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:55,599
there man it darts with holes in it yeah

1067
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:00,720
your face is gone um

1068
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:03,680
uh i okay i want your reaction and and

1069
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:04,079
and

1070
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:11,040
take on

1071
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:14,319
on the positive did you were you

1072
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:15,599
disappointed

1073
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,200
were you happy what was your reaction

1074
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,440
after your first read-through of the

1075
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:23,200
report forget about the public we'll get

1076
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:24,560
to that in a second

1077
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:27,920
what was your reaction so my reaction

1078
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,880
when i first

1079
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:31,440
opened it i laughed because i saw the

1080
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:32,400
length of it

1081
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,160
you know and and the length was was

1082
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,160
obviously very very small and i knew

1083
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,599
immediately

1084
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,520
there was not going to be a ton of

1085
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:41,280
information in it

1086
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,359
i was hoping for a 20 page threshold

1087
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,040
and anything above that would have been

1088
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,359
golden maybe 18

1089
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,359
and it was half of what i thought

1090
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,119
meaning lengthwise

1091
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:55,520
two pages of which were kind of useless

1092
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:56,800
you know the appendix a

1093
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:00,000
was four four terms or whatever

1094
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:03,680
it was and then appendix b was

1095
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,960
um you know like essentially a rehash of

1096
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:08,720
what the senate was requesting from them

1097
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,040
and

1098
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,440
how they were requesting it so right off

1099
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:12,960
the bat you can just take those pages

1100
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,280
out

1101
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,280
and the cover page and the cover page

1102
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:17,359
right yeah so you're dwindling down to

1103
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,079
like you know

1104
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:20,240
a tweet uh essentially is what we had to

1105
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:21,359
deal with

1106
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,720
but you look at it and yeah my first

1107
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:27,280
my my first reaction was was being let

1108
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:28,079
down

1109
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,839
read through it and and i was like oh

1110
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,680
this is kind of cool and then uh no it's

1111
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:33,839
it's actually not and then there was a

1112
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:35,599
couple other nuggets that we'll get into

1113
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:35,920
but

1114
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,559
that first read through very let down

1115
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,319
second read through i went okay

1116
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,559
you know let me take a deep breath for a

1117
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,640
minute here digest this yeah okay i

1118
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:46,800
i can work with this because for me

1119
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,119
again it's it's that puzzle and and

1120
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,119
i think that if anybody went into this

1121
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:52,720
thinking that they were going to come

1122
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,599
complete a puzzle for us and and and

1123
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,760
wrap it in a nice cover page and go

1124
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,960
here you go compliments of the ua ptf

1125
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,839
that that was a long shot what i really

1126
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,119
thought was going to be in it

1127
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,920
was debunking and and and but with

1128
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:08,960
visuals

1129
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,880
and some of the leaked information

1130
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:12,160
that's come out in the last couple of

1131
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,880
months

1132
00:48:17,190 --> 00:48:14,800
i thought i'd see that i i thought we

1133
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:17,200
would see like hey this is a balloon or

1134
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:17,920
this is a

1135
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,119
you know whatever it might be uh and and

1136
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:24,079
see some debunking with those nuggets

1137
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,440
sprinkled in between

1138
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,839
meaning they debunk a lot of it but then

1139
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,680
they kind of give that well but there

1140
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,760
are these other cases that we don't know

1141
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:34,079
right and on the contrary there was no

1142
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,200
visuals whatsoever

1143
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,160
no case references whatsoever thankfully

1144
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,880
there were references to reports

1145
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,800
and so that again you just look for

1146
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,240
those types of keywords

1147
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:47,520
so so that was good but i was again

1148
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,880
let down at the lack of um

1149
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,359
lack of specifics which i did think we'd

1150
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:55,280
see at least a little of within the

1151
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,920
report

1152
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,079
yeah there was only actually one

1153
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,520
specific and we'll

1154
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:01,040
we'll get back to that which was a

1155
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:02,559
debunking actually

1156
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,839
right we'll get back to that now

1157
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,400
let's talk about the public's reaction

1158
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:09,920
to this

1159
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,280
um what did you make of that it

1160
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:15,200
it's oh no you know what i'm not going

1161
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,640
to put words in your mouth

1162
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:18,480
i'm not going to do a leading question

1163
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:19,920
what did you think of the public's

1164
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,950
you know it doesn't surprise me that the

1165
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,480
majority of people that i've seen

1166
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,920
posting or let down

1167
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,520
and and more let down than meat you know

1168
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:31,359
i mean i'll make some jokes but but i

1169
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,599
do believe that there's positive nuggets

1170
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:35,520
i think that the general public truly

1171
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:36,319
wanted that

1172
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,520
that wrapped gift on christmas morning

1173
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,000
that was going to blow the lid wide open

1174
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:45,280
on ufos and one thing that i've said for

1175
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,119
for quite some time now

1176
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,040
is that of course i was optimistic and

1177
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:51,359
hopeful but in the same respect i was

1178
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:52,640
realistic

1179
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:55,680
and it is provable beyond any shadow of

1180
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,280
a doubt with verifiable

1181
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,800
evidence that i've received straight

1182
00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:00,480
from the us government that anyone can

1183
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,280
verify

1184
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:03,839
this is one of the most easily proven

1185
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:04,800
cover-ups

1186
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,240
that's there right if we thought that

1187
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:10,240
after 70 plus years they were just going

1188
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,000
to miraculously go all right

1189
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:14,880
jimmy church here you go here's

1190
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,319
everything that we have

1191
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,760
here's some videos here's some photos

1192
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:19,520
here's some some admissions that we've

1193
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:20,880
been lying to you

1194
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:23,920
and uh we put a cookie on top of it and

1195
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,079
and you know the likelihood of that was

1196
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,640
nil i mean they're just not gonna do it

1197
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,960
because they've kept the lid on this for

1198
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,079
so long

1199
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,319
what they had to do was at least peel it

1200
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,680
back a little

1201
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,520
because if they if they truly just

1202
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:39,040
debunked everything

1203
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,640
and said we are not going to look into

1204
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,880
this we do not care about this

1205
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,559
we're done you know that this is

1206
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,559
ridiculous and and why would we ever

1207
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,800
look into ufos or funded

1208
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,119
that would receive a backlash from the

1209
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:52,640
general public

1210
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,400
that would really backfire in my opinion

1211
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,880
because contrary to the late 1960s we

1212
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:00,800
have the power of social media

1213
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:03,839
social networking and the power of the

1214
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,079
people and not to sound cheesy about it

1215
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,920
but voices are very powerful when it

1216
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,520
comes to online

1217
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,319
campaigns to get stuff done so when

1218
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,400
people really put their mind to it

1219
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:17,119
they can do it so they were in a pickle

1220
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,720
they were in a conundrum

1221
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,240
they could either debunk the whole thing

1222
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,559
and say it's ridiculous or

1223
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,680
play a little bit stupid essentially

1224
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:27,280
leave it open-ended that they needed

1225
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:29,040
more money needed more funding but they

1226
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,400
were looking at it and taking it

1227
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,599
seriously

1228
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:34,000
and and it's a gamble we'll see how it

1229
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,040
plays out

1230
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,440
um i'm not convinced that this is not

1231
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,280
condon 2.0

1232
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,960
meaning that they're going to come out

1233
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:42,559
with some other report

1234
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:45,040
and then lay the bomb to say we don't

1235
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:45,680
care

1236
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,440
you know we've looked at this we now

1237
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,119
have better instrumentation we've now

1238
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,200
spent the money to upgrade everything

1239
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:52,800
and we feel confident that this is

1240
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,119
nothing or this will go on for years

1241
00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,680
and and they will continue the company

1242
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,680
line that it's all classified and

1243
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,200
they don't want to talk about it but

1244
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:02,960
they're looking into it because that

1245
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,559
will essentially shut the public up

1246
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,480
now we don't have anything to say where

1247
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,880
how can you guys not take ufo seriously

1248
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,040
well now they can say that and they keep

1249
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:13,040
the lit of secrecy on anyway

1250
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,640
so it's like the general public feels

1251
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,720
they won but in the end they have

1252
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,720
absolutely nothing you know

1253
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:21,040
so yeah i think they're challenged yeah

1254
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:22,800
i think the overarching

1255
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:26,079
uh response in social media

1256
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,240
i didn't read everything but certainly

1257
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:29,920
the majority of it

1258
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:32,319
was pointing out exactly what you're

1259
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:33,520
saying

1260
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:40,069
we don't know anything but we need more

1261
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:41,200
funding

1262
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:43,680
yeah we don't know anything but we ne

1263
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,559
and the general public picked up on that

1264
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,440
they they really did and i'm not so sure

1265
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,359
if that's a successful

1266
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:54,000
you know uh tact i don't i don't think

1267
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,119
if you're gonna attack

1268
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,079
i should say uh like a sailboat you know

1269
00:53:00,710 --> 00:53:00,240
you're gonna change direction and you're

1270
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,720
going to

1271
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:03,359
test the waters with this well i don't

1272
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:03,839
think

1273
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,839
the general public the reaction wasn't

1274
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,839
like yeah let's give them more funding

1275
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,599
so we can do this right they don't know

1276
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:11,359
anything so let's help them

1277
00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,760
no i think they were pretty upset about

1278
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:15,760
it that's the way that i was reading

1279
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,160
into the reactions

1280
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,800
i i think one aspect of the report that

1281
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:21,839
for me

1282
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:23,680
was the most interesting and really

1283
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:26,400
touched on the national security

1284
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,200
challenge of all of this is that we just

1285
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,480
now have the dod

1286
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:32,640
going on the record saying that the u.s

1287
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:34,720
military is inadequate

1288
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,000
to report track and understand whatever

1289
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:40,319
these objects are that are flying in and

1290
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,200
around

1291
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,119
military training exercises and

1292
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:44,800
facilities

1293
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,079
everybody was stuck on uaps and ufos and

1294
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:50,319
technological breakthroughs and so on

1295
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,520
and so forth

1296
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:54,640
but for me my focus became how

1297
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:58,000
like how potentially challenging for

1298
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:58,880
them

1299
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:01,440
is this going to be or is this part of a

1300
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:02,160
game

1301
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,760
meaning they've admitted they're

1302
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:06,079
inadequate and it's not every day that

1303
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:07,839
the dod goes on the record and says

1304
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,800
we're inadequate

1305
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,839
we are unable to do this and if they

1306
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:13,680
went on the record with this report and

1307
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,559
they said 100

1308
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,640
of what we looked at essentially just

1309
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:18,400
had lack of information we feel that we

1310
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:19,359
can identify

1311
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:22,559
everything if they did that

1312
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,680
that would again create that public

1313
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:28,079
backlash so that's where i talk about

1314
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:29,839
the conundrum and the pickle where they

1315
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,000
had to admit the reality

1316
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:35,040
that they can't identify everything and

1317
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:35,520
that there

1318
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,799
is this percentage of a potential threat

1319
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,960
and people don't like the threat word

1320
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:41,839
which i i don't

1321
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,799
i still really don't grasp why it is a

1322
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:45,920
potential threat

1323
00:54:50,549 --> 00:54:48,640
and the us military has now admitted

1324
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,559
that that potential threat

1325
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,480
is essentially unheeded it's

1326
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,920
unchallenged it's

1327
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,760
it's something that they don't quite

1328
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,319
understand and to understand it

1329
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,440
they do need that money so is that

1330
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,359
a part of the game where they're just

1331
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:05,760
doing this and playing the charades that

1332
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,520
oh yeah we're stupid give us more money

1333
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:08,880
and we'll understand it

1334
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:11,599
is that is that part of the effort or

1335
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,640
are they being honest

1336
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,359
saying look we're behind here you know

1337
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:17,040
we are unable

1338
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:19,359
to to fully grasp whatever this

1339
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,079
phenomena

1340
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,960
is because we don't have the technology

1341
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,640
to understand it

1342
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:27,359
and so either way you slice it or dice

1343
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,839
it

1344
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:29,359
they're going to need to throw money at

1345
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:32,720
this now because that report

1346
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:35,040
paved the way for it and that small

1347
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:36,160
percentage

1348
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:38,400
of cases and albeit small according to

1349
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,200
them

1350
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:42,480
that showed advanced technology

1351
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,200
essentially intelligence and what they

1352
00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,520
called signature management

1353
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,200
and i think that that's just obviously a

1354
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,200
fancy way of of either a stealth

1355
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,280
technology or something like that that

1356
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:55,760
you create a signature on a radar and if

1357
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:57,040
you can manage that

1358
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,920
that is a militaristic advantage so

1359
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,440
they're making

1360
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:03,760
obvious callbacks to something that

1361
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,880
they're seeing

1362
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,960
which is that potential threat that they

1363
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,400
cannot combat

1364
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:10,400
at this point and i think that that's

1365
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:11,440
what's going to get them the more

1366
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,319
funding and

1367
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,000
hey if that's what it takes to create

1368
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,000
the route to the next level

1369
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:18,319
and understanding more about uaps and

1370
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:19,119
hopefully

1371
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,799
we'll get some transparency along the

1372
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,960
way i would i would consider that a win

1373
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,119
as much as the report was a letdown

1374
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,720
we're starting to see movement on

1375
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,960
on them doing that and and we'll get to

1376
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:30,160
the memorandum

1377
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:33,280
um after the break and i want to

1378
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,640
uh jump into something else that i find

1379
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,839
very interesting

1380
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,480
and after the break we're going to go

1381
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:41,760
deeper into this

1382
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:45,440
i think the report allowed

1383
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:49,520
five different groups

1384
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:53,599
the ability to say this report speaks to

1385
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,559
us

1386
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,000
and clearly we have issues but it's

1387
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,960
five different groups that that could

1388
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,040
claim that the report is part of them

1389
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:06,160
you have the debunking side you have

1390
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:09,520
uh the pilots in the uap group um

1391
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,200
you have somebody like neil degrasse

1392
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,280
tyson who tweeted out see

1393
00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:15,440
there's nothing there there's nothing

1394
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,400
right

1395
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:18,559
there's nothing so you know to the neil

1396
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,720
degrasse tysons of the world and his

1397
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,760
followers

1398
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:23,520
the report speaks to them a different

1399
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,880
way the way that cnn and fox and the

1400
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:28,960
media handled the report

1401
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:31,839
you know that ets are are not part of

1402
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:32,799
this

1403
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,559
uh it's just weird how you're going to

1404
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:38,240
look at it with a different lens

1405
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,280
and read the report your own way and

1406
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,520
one of the things that is pointed out

1407
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,799
we're going to get into these five

1408
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:46,319
groups after the break

1409
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,440
but here it says in the report and a

1410
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:50,960
handful of uap

1411
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:53,119
appear to demonstrate advanced

1412
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,319
technology

1413
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,720
now they mentioned garbage bags they

1414
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,160
mentioned birds they mention

1415
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,400
you know they mention all of this stuff

1416
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:03,040
misread sensors and things and

1417
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,640
they mentioned all of that but then they

1418
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,559
say in 18 incidents

1419
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,960
described in 21 reports observers

1420
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,440
reported unusual uap movement patterns

1421
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,040
or flight characteristics

1422
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:14,880
i'm assuming we're talking about the

1423
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,960
group of pilots and dave fraver and alex

1424
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,319
dietrich and

1425
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:20,079
and at the tic tac and the gimbal and

1426
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:21,760
the go fast and

1427
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:24,559
and so forth but they clearly say that

1428
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:25,359
here that's

1429
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:28,480
that's one of the outs you know for the

1430
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:29,280
uap

1431
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,040
ufo uh community that is looking for

1432
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:35,280
something else here that is not natural

1433
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:35,599
or

1434
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:38,559
of this earth right it's it's really

1435
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:39,839
strange

1436
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,480
and i had to go back through the report

1437
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:44,400
a couple of times to pick

1438
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,720
up on these like you said these little

1439
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:47,920
nuggets and that

1440
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,960
is a nugget john that's one of the

1441
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,640
biggest nuggets you know page

1442
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:54,400
it's all about page five to be honest

1443
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,880
with you but those 18 incidents

1444
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,720
if we want to if we want to count the

1445
00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:00,160
gimbal the go fast and

1446
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,839
and the nimitz encounter with the flir

1447
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,079
video we know for a fact that those are

1448
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,240
considered uap that those are

1449
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:08,559
unidentified to the u.s military

1450
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:15,030
that still leaves 15 other incidents

1451
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:16,720
that we don't know about

1452
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,359
that they've seen where this advanced

1453
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:21,839
technology is being demonstrated

1454
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:24,480
and that to me is key that some people

1455
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,520
and this is what was

1456
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:26,960
disheartening about it some people

1457
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,839
reacted to oh it's it's that small of a

1458
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:31,040
number who cares

1459
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,200
it doesn't matter how small of a number

1460
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:35,280
it is it matters that they're there at

1461
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:36,000
all

1462
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:37,839
you know you can't discount the whole

1463
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:39,040
thing just because there's

1464
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,160
only a handful we know that the majority

1465
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:44,400
of uap and ufo cases are easily

1466
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,359
explainable

1467
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,200
we know that just from experience of

1468
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:49,359
eyewitnesses from the general public

1469
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,720
so the military is not going to be

1470
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:52,720
really all that much different

1471
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,200
so that to me really resonated that

1472
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:56,799
there is something

1473
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,839
still going on and obviously they made

1474
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,119
reference i know you're coming up to a

1475
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,880
break but they obviously made reference

1476
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,000
to a fact

1477
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:06,319
that they are essentially not being

1478
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,200
reported

1479
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:09,119
they talked about the stigma they talked

1480
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:11,359
about the reluctance to pilots actually

1481
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,079
you know submitting their reports and

1482
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,920
they essentially talked about the lack

1483
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,720
of

1484
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:19,839
knowledge to report this you know that

1485
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,280
there that there wasn't

1486
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:23,440
especially with the air force not until

1487
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,880
last year

1488
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,960
that there was really no protocol to do

1489
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,680
that now

1490
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,359
again i know you're coming up on a break

1491
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:32,960
but i think that that all

1492
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,680
plays a role in why that number is small

1493
01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:37,599
and when you expand the technology

1494
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,880
expand the requirement and expand the

1495
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:43,200
mandate to pilots and military personnel

1496
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:44,240
to report

1497
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,760
i think you're going to see that number

1498
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:47,359
go much much higher

1499
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,880
in the coming months and years yeah

1500
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:50,559
let's take our break right here the

1501
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:53,680
the the line in here uh

1502
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:57,040
uh or move at considerable speed without

1503
01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,400
discernible means of propulsion

1504
01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:02,400
that's a pretty interesting line to have

1505
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,839
in this report and

1506
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:05,760
i understand the disappointment with

1507
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:07,920
everybody i i do

1508
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,640
you need to just go back and really take

1509
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:12,319
a look at it but then there's the other

1510
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,119
stuff

1511
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:15,200
where they definitely pooh-pooh on a lot

1512
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:16,720
of things and we're going to get into

1513
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:17,599
all of that

1514
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,960
right after this short break our guest

1515
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:20,400
tonight john greenwald of the black

1516
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:21,119
vault

1517
01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,920
we're doing a full analysis of the uap

1518
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,599
tf report that was released to the

1519
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:27,440
senate intelligence committee this past

1520
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:28,160
friday

1521
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stay with us

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1642
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:53,920
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1643
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:54,880
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1644
01:06:59,670 --> 01:06:57,760
all of his excellent articles uh that he

1645
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started posting

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01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:02,559
thursday and friday on the ua ptf you

1647
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:04,200
can go and check out at

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theblackvault.com and of course if you

1649
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haven't been there the links are over at

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1651
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1652
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,319
at blackvaultcom

1653
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,480
i think that's right on twitter yeah

1654
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,480
that's right right black vault com yep

1655
01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:21,599
yeah you got it all right now uh i i

1656
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:23,599
i mentioned before the break and i want

1657
01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:24,960
to get into

1658
01:07:29,109 --> 01:07:28,160
this that i think this is uh back to

1659
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:29,119
page five

1660
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:33,839
stunning

1661
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:37,200
but not i think you and i part ways here

1662
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:40,480
on the road on on to why it's stunning i

1663
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:41,039
think

1664
01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:44,240
that the od and i um

1665
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:46,799
and the dia and the fbi and the cia the

1666
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:48,960
nsa and the nro and everybody else that

1667
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,799
was contacted to contribute to this

1668
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:51,839
report

1669
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:54,960
left the door wide open to any number of

1670
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:56,000
groups

1671
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,960
and they did that very conveniently by

1672
01:08:03,430 --> 01:07:59,920
stating

1673
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:03,440
uap probably lack a single explanation

1674
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,000
now we

1675
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,960
know that of course right but it's the

1676
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:08,559
way that they approached it

1677
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:11,200
right and so i want to talk about this

1678
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:11,680
first

1679
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:15,359
group airborne clutter

1680
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:18,319
um all right do you have the the report

1681
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:19,520
up in front of you

1682
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,520
i do yeah i had to be prepared for your

1683
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:23,600
interviews you asked good questions so

1684
01:08:27,189 --> 01:08:24,000
i've got

1685
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:27,199
everything good to go but airborne

1686
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:29,040
clutter i'm gonna i'm gonna let you read

1687
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:29,440
those

1688
01:08:36,630 --> 01:08:33,120
two sentences sure these objects

1689
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:36,640
include birds balloons recreational

1690
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:39,520
unmanned aerial vehicles or uavs or

1691
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,480
airborne debris like plastic bags

1692
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,880
that muddle a scene and affect an

1693
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:46,480
operator's ability to

1694
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:49,520
identify true targets such as enemy

1695
01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:50,719
aircraft

1696
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:53,759
now um there's a lot of talk in this

1697
01:09:01,110 --> 01:08:56,799
uh of six pages about sensors

1698
01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:01,120
and our excellent uh military technology

1699
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:05,359
but they can't identify only identify

1700
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,480
accurately what they know about right

1701
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:10,799
enemy aircraft for instance right we can

1702
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:11,920
nail that

1703
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:15,839
submarines we can we know by the sound

1704
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:19,600
of a submarine's screw propeller

1705
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:22,400
we know exactly we know what not only

1706
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,440
what kind

1707
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:25,600
we know the name of that particular

1708
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,480
vessel right

1709
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:28,880
everything's got a signature so as long

1710
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:31,279
as we know what we're going for

1711
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:33,199
that they are stating right but if it's

1712
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:35,600
a if it's a

1713
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:39,040
if it's a plastic bag

1714
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:41,759
we don't have the technology to identify

1715
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:42,880
these things

1716
01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:45,759
that's a big segment of this isn't it

1717
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:47,120
john

1718
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,640
well i this is the part that that

1719
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:52,719
confuses me a little bit on whether or

1720
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,880
not these five categories are something

1721
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:56,000
that they developed

1722
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,360
in the development of the uaptf and the

1723
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,199
task force's mission

1724
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:03,040
and they sit down before they ever look

1725
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:05,280
at a uap case and go okay look

1726
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:07,360
we got mysterious objects in the air

1727
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:08,640
what could they be

1728
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:10,320
and they all in a round table start

1729
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:11,199
coming up with the different

1730
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:12,800
explanations

1731
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,920
their five categories truly do encompass

1732
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:16,880
everything

1733
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,080
that ufos could essentially be uh we

1734
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,760
just went over airborne clutter

1735
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,280
i hope you don't mind me jumping ahead

1736
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:25,199
here but the other categories were

1737
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:27,440
natural atmospheric phenomena

1738
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,840
us government or industry developmental

1739
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:30,960
programs

1740
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,679
foreign advertiser adversary systems or

1741
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:35,199
what they call the catch all

1742
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:38,159
other bin that encompasses everything so

1743
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:40,000
what we don't know

1744
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:41,760
because we don't have access to the data

1745
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,080
and the 140 plus cases

1746
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,560
is that did they determine that because

1747
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,000
of what they were seeing

1748
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:50,560
or did they create that prior to ever

1749
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:51,120
seeing

1750
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,920
anything my guess is is they created

1751
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:55,440
that before ever seeing

1752
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:58,560
anything because there are going to be a

1753
01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:00,000
lot of instances as

1754
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:01,840
stupid as it sounds i mean i don't know

1755
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:03,440
about a plastic bag

1756
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,440
but something like a foreign object

1757
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:07,520
flying in the wind that somebody sees

1758
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:08,960
we know that from project blue book

1759
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,719
there were a lot of instances where

1760
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:13,440
even military personnel saw things that

1761
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:14,000
were not

1762
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:17,120
military craft or anything like that but

1763
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,080
obviously they are are tackling the

1764
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:22,000
different explanations

1765
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:24,480
in this section and and if i were to bet

1766
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,080
money and i don't know

1767
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:27,920
i think that these five categories were

1768
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,120
determined

1769
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:31,440
when they started and essentially that

1770
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,159
is their

1771
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,199
um i would say reference material to

1772
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:37,360
to once they do look at a case where

1773
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:38,560
does it fall into

1774
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:42,080
is it a plastic bag is it a a craft of

1775
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,920
some kind okay so is it our own

1776
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:45,120
technology or

1777
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,440
is this something else is this a

1778
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:52,000
catch-all other bin so i think that

1779
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:52,560
that's

1780
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,239
the beginning if i were to bet money

1781
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:59,199
i would uh i i thought about this so

1782
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:00,080
much

1783
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,199
i think they looked at those 144 cases

1784
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:05,360
they did the best analysis that they

1785
01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:07,040
could you know different

1786
01:12:11,110 --> 01:12:08,880
agencies and different branches of the

1787
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,120
military where these cases

1788
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:13,760
were being analyzed and they came up

1789
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,320
with

1790
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:16,400
some were you know i i think there was a

1791
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:18,320
case in there that had a plastic bag

1792
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:18,960
that they

1793
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:22,400
identified right or orbit or balloon

1794
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:26,159
or uavs and then they had

1795
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:27,840
some of these reports that came through

1796
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:29,600
that turned out to be

1797
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:32,159
ice crystals cloud formations right that

1798
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,000
were picked up by the sensors

1799
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:36,560
yeah and they identified that when when

1800
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:37,600
you come down

1801
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:41,199
and uh the the the second

1802
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:44,239
the the last two which are secret

1803
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:45,520
government programs

1804
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:47,920
hours right now that was pretty

1805
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:50,000
interesting but then they follow that up

1806
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:53,840
with we were unable to confirm however

1807
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:56,480
that these systems accounted for any of

1808
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:57,360
the uap

1809
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:01,280
reports we collected so out of those 144

1810
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,400
cases

1811
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:05,760
they're firmly saying it wasn't us

1812
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:09,120
yeah so two comments the the one thing

1813
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,840
that i would

1814
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,840
comment on on did they see cases that

1815
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:13,760
were ice crystals

1816
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,760
if you look at uap probably lack a

1817
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,000
single explanation that section that

1818
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,640
first paragraph last line they say with

1819
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:22,560
the exception of the one

1820
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:25,120
instance where we determined with high

1821
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:26,159
confidence that the

1822
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,719
reported uap was airborne clutter

1823
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:30,000
specifically

1824
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,960
a deflating balloon we currently lack

1825
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,880
sufficient information in our data set

1826
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,719
to attribute incidents to specific

1827
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,880
explanations so where i find that

1828
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:39,840
interesting

1829
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:42,239
is that they were only able to identify

1830
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:43,600
with confidence

1831
01:13:46,990 --> 01:13:46,400
one out of the and forty four why do

1832
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:47,000
they have these

1833
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:50,239
143 that they still consider unexplained

1834
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:51,600
right and why wasn't that

1835
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:54,719
in in the appendix right that that was

1836
01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:58,000
the video that they looked at that they

1837
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,600
determined it was a a deflating balloon

1838
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:04,400
yeah i'm k and you're absolutely right

1839
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:05,760
that's where i thought that there were

1840
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:08,400
going to be some type of visuals because

1841
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:11,679
the impact that that would have is

1842
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:14,719
let's say and this is a guess

1843
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:18,239
i by reading this i feel that this is

1844
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:19,679
potentially the uss

1845
01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:22,400
omaha footage uh that was leaked out by

1846
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,360
jeremy corbell

1847
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,000
the one that went behind the horizon

1848
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:27,120
that's

1849
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:31,280
was like a sphere that was coming down

1850
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:32,719
there was a portion of the video that

1851
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:33,360
was missing

1852
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:34,960
right and then it looks like it either

1853
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:37,199
went uh on the other side of the horizon

1854
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,400
and lost visual or potentially just

1855
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,960
popped uh i think mick west had a had a

1856
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:45,040
version that he felt it was a flare of

1857
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:46,400
some kind and what you were seeing with

1858
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,560
the sphere was infrared glare

1859
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,000
again i don't know if that's his most

1860
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:52,560
recent explanation but i did see that

1861
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:54,640
regardless i think that you know if a

1862
01:14:58,229 --> 01:14:56,400
deflating balloon you have this slow

1863
01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:58,239
descending sphere-like object that

1864
01:15:02,229 --> 01:15:00,800
you know seems to essentially just uh

1865
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:02,239
hit the water and that's it

1866
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:03,760
so if i were to bet money that would

1867
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:05,600
potentially be it let's just

1868
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:07,760
hypothetically here say that that was

1869
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,719
the footage

1870
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:10,480
this was a perfect spot for them to put

1871
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,000
a visual in there

1872
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:14,560
and possibly even one that the public

1873
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:16,239
has been accustomed to hearing

1874
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:19,040
this as a ufo and essentially blow it

1875
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:19,840
out of the water

1876
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,960
pardon the pun and and solve it

1877
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,800
that even though now you still have 18

1878
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:26,800
incidents that i want to get a hold of

1879
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,960
right you're blowing it out of the water

1880
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:30,080
and that visual

1881
01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:33,440
impact would actually in my opinion to

1882
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,199
the general public

1883
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,199
would override the 18 incidence

1884
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:39,520
paragraph so i think that if they really

1885
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:41,920
wanted to kind of make an impact here

1886
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:44,239
they could have put that visual in here

1887
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,280
and said this

1888
01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:46,960
is look high confidence this is a

1889
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,320
deflating balloon

1890
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,480
now i i don't have a certainty that that

1891
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:52,480
it's the uss omaha footage

1892
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:54,960
but regardless if there was something in

1893
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,800
there that was a missed opportunity if

1894
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,840
they really wanted to

1895
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,280
not that i want to give them advice let

1896
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:01,280
me interrupt myself you know i'm not

1897
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,040
trying to tell them what to do

1898
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:05,360
but why i wanted to see debunking in it

1899
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,800
was it shows that they are

1900
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:09,040
thinking you know because a lot of

1901
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,480
skeptics and i don't want to

1902
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,080
name names and no it's actually not mick

1903
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,560
west but another notable debunker

1904
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:17,440
as he calls himself was essentially

1905
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:19,520
attacking the pentagon and the uaptf as

1906
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,520
being inadequate and

1907
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:24,000
and and essentially ignorant to some of

1908
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:26,239
these objects like a balloon or

1909
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:28,960
or whatever it may be but they're they

1910
01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:30,719
meaning debunkers are now making the

1911
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:31,760
assumption

1912
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,560
that the uaptf doesn't know what some of

1913
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:35,760
these objects are

1914
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:37,040
we know those three that i already

1915
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:38,159
mentioned they already went on the

1916
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,880
record

1917
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,719
none of the other leaked material have

1918
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:42,000
they gone on the record and say they're

1919
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:43,120
unidentified

1920
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,640
and i feel that that's going to play a

1921
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,800
role somewhere down the line i thought

1922
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:48,320
this was going to be it

1923
01:16:51,510 --> 01:16:50,719
but it turns out that it wasn't but

1924
01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:51,520
regardless

1925
01:16:55,350 --> 01:16:53,760
debunkers are now kind of creating the

1926
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:55,360
narrative they're just making it up

1927
01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:57,360
they're saying that that well the uaptf

1928
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:58,960
is is inadequate because they can't even

1929
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,360
tell

1930
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:01,679
what a balloon is and and uh the

1931
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:03,520
analysis of this particular video shows

1932
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:03,920
that

1933
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:06,800
it's likely a balloon well the uaptf has

1934
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,600
never said that

1935
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:09,199
you know and so that's where i think

1936
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,800
debunkers are really starting to trip

1937
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,239
themselves up because they're making up

1938
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:13,600
the middle ground here

1939
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:15,520
uh but at the end of the day we just

1940
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:16,800
don't know

1941
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:19,600
what they're referencing and so that's

1942
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:21,040
that's what makes it very very

1943
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,159
challenging on

1944
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:24,239
what kind of of evidence do they really

1945
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,360
have now

1946
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,360
one of your other points was they ruled

1947
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:28,800
out uh

1948
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:30,800
us government technology and industry

1949
01:17:34,470 --> 01:17:32,400
developmental programs

1950
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:34,480
this is a question that that i've been

1951
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,480
asking not only on my channel but

1952
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,719
but on social media that i don't see a

1953
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,239
lot of people asking

1954
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:42,239
and it's what kind of access does the

1955
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:44,080
uaptf have

1956
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:46,960
do they have carte blanche top secret

1957
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,600
you know

1958
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,199
access to anything and everything they

1959
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,040
want from special access programs to

1960
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,280
unacknowledge special access programs

1961
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:56,000
whatever can they access that are they

1962
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,000
told when something is being tested

1963
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:00,640
in a highly classified setting i don't

1964
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,400
know the answer to that nor does

1965
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:05,760
anybody and if if i've learned anything

1966
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:08,159
from government secrecy over the last 25

1967
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,960
years

1968
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:10,480
it's generally the right hand doesn't

1969
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:12,320
know what the left hand is doing

1970
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:14,640
and that has that has proven itself true

1971
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,320
umpteen times to me

1972
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:18,880
with evidence over the last 25 years

1973
01:18:23,110 --> 01:18:20,560
more times than i can count

1974
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,120
so the biggest question is when you're

1975
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:24,880
talking about top secret and classified

1976
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:26,320
technology

1977
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,800
if a very small department of whatever

1978
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:29,920
agency or

1979
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,320
you know whatever is the oversight for a

1980
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,000
particular program

1981
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:35,760
and they're testing it off the coast of

1982
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:38,800
catalina when the uss nimitz carrier

1983
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,679
group is out there doing a practice run

1984
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,760
and they keep that from the u.s navy you

1985
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:44,960
know and they keep that

1986
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:47,679
from the carrier group if the uap task

1987
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:49,440
force comes along and goes hmm

1988
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:51,040
i wonder if we're testing anything out

1989
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,480
there and they start doing their

1990
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,480
research are they told okay look guys

1991
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,920
you know we've got this top secret

1992
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:57,760
program going on uh

1993
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,920
that's what this is or do they keep the

1994
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:01,600
right hand in the dark

1995
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:03,520
and and that's what i don't know when it

1996
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:05,520
comes to the uap task force is the

1997
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:06,239
access

1998
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,600
i'm sure if you were to get a hold of

1999
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:09,280
somebody from the task force

2000
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:10,560
they would say yeah no we're we're going

2001
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:12,560
to be privy to all that yeah we reached

2002
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:13,199
out

2003
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:14,880
yeah yeah they don't they don't want to

2004
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:16,640
be in the dark yeah yeah and it could be

2005
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:18,000
a combination of both

2006
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:21,199
could yeah

2007
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,719
absolutely and that's the thing with

2008
01:19:26,709 --> 01:19:24,400
government secrecy is you never know

2009
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,719
what the truth is you look at at

2010
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:29,280
a proven history when it comes to uh

2011
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:30,800
classified technology stealth

2012
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,440
development

2013
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:33,679
mental programs look at the b2 stealth

2014
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:35,120
bomber you look at all those aircraft

2015
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,040
even spy satellites so other

2016
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,120
types of technology we've had stuff in

2017
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,360
operation for literally decades

2018
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,679
before the government or the military

2019
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,360
admits that it's actually

2020
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:47,600
there we've had full underground

2021
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:48,640
facilities

2022
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:51,679
like greenbriar in full operation for

2023
01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,239
years

2024
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:54,719
underneath a four four star five star

2025
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:55,440
whatever it is

2026
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:58,800
resort and in full operation in plain

2027
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,600
sight

2028
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,120
and the government wasn't acknowledging

2029
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,280
it my whole point is is if they want to

2030
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:05,040
keep a secret they absolutely

2031
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:06,960
can and they'll lie through their teeth

2032
01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:10,080
all along so the question mark with this

2033
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:12,159
is everybody says aha see it's not

2034
01:20:15,510 --> 01:20:13,440
government technology

2035
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,520
well i'm not saying that it is either

2036
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,440
but you have to look at the reality

2037
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,400
behind

2038
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:20,080
government secrecy when it comes to

2039
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:21,440
classified tech

2040
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:24,480
and then ask the question does the uaptf

2041
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:27,280
truly have the access that it needs to

2042
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:28,880
determine

2043
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:31,679
what cases may potentially be classified

2044
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:32,880
technology

2045
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,760
and then go from there so that data set

2046
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:37,600
that they're referencing

2047
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:41,679
is is potentially scientifically flawed

2048
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,600
they don't have the right access they

2049
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:45,199
don't have the amount of information

2050
01:20:48,070 --> 01:20:46,400
they should be getting

2051
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:48,080
they don't have the proper protocols at

2052
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:50,639
this point set up and so it is flawed

2053
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:52,400
from the get-go so any conclusion they

2054
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:53,360
come up with

2055
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:54,960
from a scientific investigative

2056
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:57,840
standpoint i believe is flawed also

2057
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:01,360
well and and to support that uh argument

2058
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:05,040
in that position is they there's one key

2059
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:08,560
word here and i kept i caught it

2060
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:12,080
it's the word confirm because they word

2061
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:12,400
it

2062
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:17,120
like this we were unable to confirm

2063
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:20,239
right it doesn't say

2064
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:22,880
we can say with 100 certainty it wasn't

2065
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:23,360
ours

2066
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:25,679
no that's not what it says it says we

2067
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:27,440
were unable to confirm

2068
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:30,239
however that these systems accounted for

2069
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:33,199
any of the uap reports we collected

2070
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:35,120
that's that's what it says it doesn't

2071
01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:37,520
say the opposite of that

2072
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,199
which is 100 it wasn't ours we know this

2073
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,440
no that's not what the line says but

2074
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:45,520
then the next statement

2075
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:49,040
is again uh

2076
01:21:53,830 --> 01:21:51,600
confirmed and unconfirmed reports about

2077
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,840
the report before it came out

2078
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:55,600
and the the position on foreign

2079
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:57,520
adversary systems

2080
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:00,800
is this line which some uap may be

2081
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:03,360
technologies to deploy by china russia

2082
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:04,960
and another nation

2083
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:08,560
or non-governmental uh entity

2084
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:11,600
well they leave that wide open again to

2085
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:14,960
that other group where they can say

2086
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:17,760
the report supports it could be russia

2087
01:22:21,510 --> 01:22:18,480
or china

2088
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:21,520
it doesn't say that it's not correct

2089
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:24,080
and and the other aspect to all of this

2090
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:25,840
that some people don't like me bringing

2091
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:26,320
up

2092
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:30,080
counter intelligence

2093
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:33,440
value to an opportunity like this

2094
01:22:36,830 --> 01:22:35,360
and i think that when you look at the

2095
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:36,840
uap

2096
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:39,679
issue yes i do believe it's more than

2097
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:41,679
just government technology or foreign

2098
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,800
adversary

2099
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,159
but you also have to look at the

2100
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:46,159
opportunity the intelligence community

2101
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:46,880
has

2102
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:49,360
for counter intelligence purposes and

2103
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:51,280
that is put information out there that's

2104
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:52,159
not entirely

2105
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:55,199
true to confuse those enemies

2106
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:57,760
or potential you know friends out there

2107
01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:59,040
but people that we don't want them to

2108
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:00,880
know all of our secrets anyway

2109
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:03,199
put stuff out there that's not entirely

2110
01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:04,080
true

2111
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,400
and confuse the heck out of them because

2112
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:08,960
you know that russia was looking at this

2113
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,800
you know that china was looking at this

2114
01:23:13,350 --> 01:23:12,159
you know that iran was looking at this

2115
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:13,360
you know that all of those different

2116
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:14,719
types of countries

2117
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,159
uh some of which that yeah we're not

2118
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,320
like at war with at all

2119
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:20,639
but obviously they are our competitors

2120
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:21,440
so to speak

2121
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,560
in in the global in the global eye

2122
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:27,040
and so we want to use this as an

2123
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:27,920
opportunity

2124
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,560
to essentially be ignorant and and i

2125
01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:32,480
think that there's value to that

2126
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:34,480
hypothetical what if a percentage of

2127
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,360
this is classified technology

2128
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:39,600
and this is an opportunity to throw out

2129
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,360
there into the ether

2130
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:43,199
that russia now looks at this and goes

2131
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:44,560
wait a minute we thought that was

2132
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:46,000
american they really don't know what

2133
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:46,800
that is

2134
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:49,199
off the coast of you know florida or off

2135
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:49,840
the coast of

2136
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,719
california or wherever wait a minute are

2137
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:54,239
they lying are they telling the truth

2138
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:56,320
right it wasn't us you know russia's

2139
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:57,280
thinking

2140
01:24:02,229 --> 01:23:59,679
we know it wasn't us don't think it was

2141
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,239
china and if the united states

2142
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:04,400
holy crap what's really going on here

2143
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:05,920
and are they telling the truth

2144
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:09,520
there is value in that from a

2145
01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:11,199
counterintelligence perspective

2146
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:13,600
well said when you create this type of

2147
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,639
report

2148
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,719
this goes well beyond just informing the

2149
01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:18,480
senate intelligence committee

2150
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:22,639
on uap this is a potential advantage

2151
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:25,760
in a counter-intelligence effort

2152
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,000
to confuse world powers and you

2153
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,560
you meaning collectively all of us have

2154
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:34,480
to consider that

2155
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:36,400
when looking at a report like this and

2156
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:37,920
you truly have to

2157
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:40,960
question every punctuation mark

2158
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:43,280
that's in this report because you don't

2159
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,400
know what's real

2160
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:47,840
what's not and with the classified

2161
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,360
report what other type of material are

2162
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,440
they putting in there to tell congress

2163
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:55,600
potentially just that hey look we're

2164
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,480
using this a bit as a

2165
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,320
counterintelligence effort have to

2166
01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:59,920
we know what this is off the coast of

2167
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:02,239
california right we can't talk about it

2168
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:02,960
yet

2169
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:05,199
uh you know we know from history they've

2170
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:06,239
done that before we

2171
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:07,840
we didn't hear about the stealth

2172
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:09,840
helicopter used in the operation to get

2173
01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:10,719
bin laden

2174
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,040
until we needed to use it and and that

2175
01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:14,960
was that was always denied we never knew

2176
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:16,239
about that technology

2177
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:18,080
you look at the the gulf war and the

2178
01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:19,679
stealth technology the stealth fighter

2179
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:21,120
that came out during that

2180
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:23,440
so you look at history and you can prove

2181
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,040
that the military will plead

2182
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,760
ignorance and deny certain things that

2183
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:29,120
are reality

2184
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:31,040
because it suits their advantage it

2185
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,560
plays into their advantage

2186
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:35,040
and when the time is right they play

2187
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:36,880
their chess piece and the general public

2188
01:25:40,070 --> 01:25:37,360
then

2189
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:40,080
becomes aware about the reality so i let

2190
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:41,760
me state for the record i am not saying

2191
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:43,920
that everything is classified technology

2192
01:25:48,629 --> 01:25:46,239
but what i am saying just from history

2193
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:48,639
they will use this to their advantage

2194
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,760
and take that opportunity from a

2195
01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:53,600
counterintelligence standpoint and run

2196
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:54,320
with it

2197
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:58,719
now uh the unclassified portion is now

2198
01:26:03,510 --> 01:26:00,639
part of the public record

2199
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:03,520
and i know that the ufo community feels

2200
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:05,199
as they should that it was written for

2201
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:06,719
them you know this is this is

2202
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:09,679
for them which is fine it's written for

2203
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:10,800
everybody

2204
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:13,040
it's re it's part of the public record

2205
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,920
and yes

2206
01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:15,679
foreign adversaries are reading this

2207
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:17,280
document too

2208
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:19,840
it is there for their consumption now

2209
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:21,040
going back to my

2210
01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,719
and we've got a break coming up we've

2211
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,080
got five minutes

2212
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:27,360
back to my analysis um in the beginning

2213
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,679
they're looking at these 144 reports

2214
01:26:33,669 --> 01:26:31,440
they've got their spreadsheet

2215
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:33,679
they're putting pins in the wall and

2216
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:34,960
they're you know

2217
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:37,199
and and they've they're coming up with

2218
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:38,800
these answers

2219
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:42,080
and then they have the other the

2220
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:44,080
other section which we're going to talk

2221
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:45,600
about and we'll follow up after the

2222
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:46,639
break

2223
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:51,280
is yes it's a catch-all fravor

2224
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:53,360
and alex dietrich and the tic tac that

2225
01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:56,159
could also fall in the other category

2226
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:58,639
that they are not necessarily because if

2227
01:27:02,470 --> 01:26:59,360
you

2228
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:02,480
uh read through

2229
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,600
the tic tac in all of that was

2230
01:27:09,910 --> 01:27:07,600
not necessarily something that was

2231
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:09,920
falling in their other categories

2232
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,560
it would be right in the first four it

2233
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:14,560
would fall into the other

2234
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:18,159
as well and how many of those cases were

2235
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:20,719
left over that fell into the other was

2236
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:22,800
it two was it three was it five

2237
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,400
was it 50 right i don't know

2238
01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,639
and uh let's let's go through this go

2239
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:30,159
ahead i'm going to have you read

2240
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,960
the first half sure although most of the

2241
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:35,120
uap described in our data set probably

2242
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,600
remain unidentified due to limited data

2243
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:39,760
or challenges to collection processing

2244
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:41,120
or analysis

2245
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:43,280
we may require additional scientific

2246
01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:45,840
knowledge to successfully collect on

2247
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,040
analyze

2248
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:49,679
and characterize some of them we would

2249
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,360
group such objects in this category

2250
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:53,199
pending scientific advances that allow

2251
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,120
us to better understand them

2252
01:27:58,629 --> 01:27:57,679
the uaptf intends to focus additional

2253
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,639
analysis

2254
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:01,040
on the small number of cases where a uap

2255
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:02,560
appeared to display

2256
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:04,159
unusual flight characteristics or

2257
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:05,679
signature management that's

2258
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:09,040
that's that's dave fravor yeah

2259
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:10,800
yeah and i would say that that is

2260
01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:12,159
everything that you

2261
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,239
me your audience and the general public

2262
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:16,000
would want to see i made a joke that the

2263
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:18,239
catch-all other bin should be a t-shirt

2264
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:20,239
i love that idea by the way

2265
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,480
yeah i wish i was artistically talented

2266
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,679
i would uh

2267
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,440
create something just as a fundraiser

2268
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:27,199
not to profit off of but

2269
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,159
uh that said i mean this is this is the

2270
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:32,239
category that yes the tic tac would fit

2271
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:33,280
into

2272
01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:34,960
essentially the gimbal and go fast

2273
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:36,800
objects because they're unidentified

2274
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:38,159
because they're not airborne clutter

2275
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,080
natural atmospheric phenomena

2276
01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:42,239
uh according to them not a government

2277
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,239
program or not russia or

2278
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:46,800
china or ice crystals i love that or

2279
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:47,280
swamp

2280
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:50,880
on the table but

2281
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:53,520
that be that be that as it may the other

2282
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,480
catch all been

2283
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:56,159
is what we would want to get our hands

2284
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:58,400
on and and i think that

2285
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:00,800
they lessen the impact of just saying ah

2286
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:01,760
it's other

2287
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,199
and they try to to say that it's the

2288
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,920
small number of cases is their quote

2289
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,800
regardless

2290
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:11,040
that small number of cases is going to

2291
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:12,239
be the absolute

2292
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:15,600
most fascinating to all of us and

2293
01:29:20,709 --> 01:29:17,760
and the question mark is at this point

2294
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,719
they do admit 143 are unexplained

2295
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,639
but do they consider all of them in the

2296
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:24,000
other category

2297
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,520
you know how many of those 143 displayed

2298
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:29,679
unusual flight characteristics

2299
01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:31,120
and and those are all question marks

2300
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:32,400
that we don't know yet because we don't

2301
01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,000
have access to that data

2302
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:36,239
only they would know that but the fact

2303
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:37,760
that they are going on the record saying

2304
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:40,080
143 are unexplained

2305
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,840
it does actually open the door that a

2306
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:43,199
lot of those some of those

2307
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:46,480
even just a select few are truly

2308
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,239
in that other category and those are the

2309
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:50,080
ones that we want to take a look at

2310
01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:52,800
i would think that based on the report

2311
01:29:55,750 --> 01:29:54,639
uh before your break i'll make this

2312
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,760
point quickly

2313
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:58,239
that if they had the opportunity even to

2314
01:30:02,149 --> 01:29:59,520
say in

2315
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:02,159
medium confidence you know they said in

2316
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:03,760
high confidence it was a deflating

2317
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:05,440
balloon on one of the other

2318
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:08,080
cases that they solved if they had the

2319
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:09,679
opportunity in the room to say

2320
01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:12,480
in medium confidence that we think the

2321
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:13,760
majority were airborne

2322
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:16,400
clutter or the majority were some kind

2323
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,480
of atmospheric phenomena ice crystals

2324
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:20,000
swamp gas whatever

2325
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:23,040
if they had any inkling that they could

2326
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,120
get away with that they would have

2327
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:27,120
and for me i think it's telling that

2328
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:28,880
they tried to put off

2329
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:31,120
they tried to get away with that job but

2330
01:30:34,709 --> 01:30:32,719
they didn't right that's the thing

2331
01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:34,719
right they tried to give the illusion

2332
01:30:38,229 --> 01:30:36,239
that the majority were fitting into

2333
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:38,239
these other categories

2334
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,159
yet they didn't take any opportunity to

2335
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:43,280
say any of those 143 actually did

2336
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:46,400
so that to me was very telling because

2337
01:30:50,870 --> 01:30:48,880
when you read the report and you look at

2338
01:30:52,629 --> 01:30:50,880
well it's lack of data and it could be

2339
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:52,639
ice crystals and it could be this or

2340
01:30:56,070 --> 01:30:53,600
that

2341
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:56,080
yet they didn't give any number to those

2342
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,040
other ones

2343
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,360
they only had the one case that they

2344
01:31:03,270 --> 01:31:00,639
could put on there

2345
01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:03,280
i know or i feel anyway not no let me

2346
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,159
rephrase that

2347
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:06,639
i feel that if they had 12 cases that

2348
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:07,440
were

2349
01:31:14,229 --> 01:31:11,600
drones or uavs

2350
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:14,239
from some kid that was flying them you

2351
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:16,400
know near a training exercise they would

2352
01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:17,199
say it

2353
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:21,920
was truly actually one of the more

2354
01:31:24,790 --> 01:31:23,360
interesting aspects

2355
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:24,800
i think i didn't realize until like

2356
01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:27,760
three times after reading it

2357
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:29,760
writing down but i need to take a break

2358
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:31,840
right here so let's get that in but

2359
01:31:38,149 --> 01:31:35,840
um the word here is hypocritical

2360
01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:38,159
with a well-written report like this i

2361
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:40,239
don't think that the od and i

2362
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:43,199
realized that they were actually being

2363
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,639
hypocritical

2364
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:46,880
in such a well-written report we'll come

2365
01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,440
back to that after this short break

2366
01:32:03,350 --> 01:31:51,040
this is fade to blacker guest tonight

2367
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:06,470
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2368
01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:09,600
you're listening to fade to black

2369
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:11,440
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2370
01:32:20,010 --> 01:32:12,639
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2371
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:24,830
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2372
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:31,430
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2373
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2374
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:35,520
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2375
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:37,600
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2376
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:39,120
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2377
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2378
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2379
01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:46,960
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2380
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2381
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2382
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2383
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2384
01:33:01,830 --> 01:32:58,880
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2385
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:01,840
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2386
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:04,880
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2387
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2388
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2389
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2390
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2391
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2392
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2393
01:33:22,149 --> 01:33:19,040
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2394
01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:22,159
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2395
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2396
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2397
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2398
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:32,719
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2399
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:35,679
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2400
01:33:40,310 --> 01:33:38,480
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2401
01:33:43,590 --> 01:33:40,320
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2403
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2416
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2417
01:34:23,629 --> 01:34:19,220
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2418
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:23,639
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2419
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:29,350
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2420
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:36,709
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2421
01:34:40,870 --> 01:34:37,760
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2422
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:40,880
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2423
01:35:00,260 --> 01:34:42,239
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2424
01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:00,270
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2425
01:35:19,490 --> 01:35:28,709
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2426
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:30,470
welcome back fade to black i am your

2427
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:32,400
host jimmy church tonight john greenwald

2428
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:33,760
is here i'm gonna let everybody know

2429
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:35,679
right now over the youtube chat

2430
01:35:41,109 --> 01:35:38,880
they are playing spot the fed

2431
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:41,119
you know there's fed in that chat and

2432
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:42,880
i'm here to talk to you right now

2433
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:46,880
about virtual shield and uh your own vpn

2434
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:49,440
that's how you get rid of the fed that's

2435
01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:50,560
it that's how you

2436
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:54,480
run in secret get your own vpn i use

2437
01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:56,159
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2438
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:00,560
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2439
01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:04,080
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2440
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:07,280
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2441
01:36:09,510 --> 01:36:07,840
knows

2442
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:09,520
that's what you need today you don't

2443
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:11,280
have to play spot the fed

2444
01:36:15,910 --> 01:36:14,320
if you have virtual shield vpn it's all

2445
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:15,920
simple to do click on the link in the

2446
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,480
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2447
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2448
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,239
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2449
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:23,119
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2450
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:24,239
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2451
01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:27,199
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2452
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:28,400
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2453
01:36:34,709 --> 01:36:32,400
50 off today get virtual shield

2454
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,719
now and that you don't have to play spot

2455
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:37,040
the fed do you have a vpn

2456
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:41,119
john with all of the all of the agency

2457
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:44,320
surveillance on your

2458
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:47,600
on your job on your company

2459
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:49,280
everything that you do do you have do

2460
01:36:53,830 --> 01:36:50,880
you run a vpn

2461
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:53,840
i i cannot talk about my computer

2462
01:36:56,470 --> 01:36:54,639
security

2463
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:56,480
that's what i'm talking about you gotta

2464
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:58,080
have a vpn today

2465
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:00,000
you you just have to have it you have to

2466
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:01,520
have it um

2467
01:37:05,590 --> 01:37:04,560
good for you my man good for you spot

2468
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:05,600
the fed

2469
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:12,320
um uh i i brought up the word

2470
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:15,679
uh hypocritical and when i i kept

2471
01:37:18,229 --> 01:37:17,199
reading through i was like wait a minute

2472
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,239
here

2473
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:20,960
they are speaking out of both sides of

2474
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,600
their mouth

2475
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:24,639
at the same time they are trying to be

2476
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:25,199
clever

2477
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:27,119
and i appreciate that they have to be

2478
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:28,560
they have to be clever it's a very

2479
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,000
important report

2480
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:32,159
but i started reading through this and i

2481
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:34,560
started wait a minute here

2482
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:37,920
they are saying that they are doing two

2483
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:40,960
things the the two are

2484
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:44,000
polarized opposites and it's like a

2485
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:45,760
hypocritical message

2486
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:49,199
right do you do you feel that

2487
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:51,840
well i think that they want to give one

2488
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:52,880
message

2489
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,320
and before the break and i know this may

2490
01:38:01,189 --> 01:38:00,080
come as a shock to some people i can be

2491
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,199
long-winded

2492
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,440
uh but if i were to if i were to

2493
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:05,040
summarize

2494
01:38:08,629 --> 01:38:07,840
what i was saying i i think that

2495
01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:08,639
essentially

2496
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:11,119
what the government did not say in this

2497
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:12,080
report

2498
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,520
and so so again i i think that they

2499
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:18,960
wanted us to

2500
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:21,360
see the explanations and atmospheric

2501
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:22,560
phenomena and

2502
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:25,360
plastic bags flying around at 30 000

2503
01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:26,880
feet and whatever they want to

2504
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:30,000
put out there but the reality was they

2505
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:30,800
didn't blame

2506
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:33,360
anything on any of that they just said

2507
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:34,560
it could be

2508
01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:37,920
but the reality was 143 of those cases

2509
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:41,199
according to them are unexplained and we

2510
01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:41,920
have the most

2511
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:45,040
boring named category as likely the most

2512
01:38:48,709 --> 01:38:46,000
interesting

2513
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:48,719
and so they did not use the opportunity

2514
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:49,360
other than

2515
01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:52,080
one case that they didn't name that was

2516
01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,520
a deflating balloon

2517
01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:56,239
everything else was essentially kind of

2518
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:57,520
a question mark

2519
01:39:01,189 --> 01:39:00,080
and so that for me again by not saying

2520
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:01,199
anything

2521
01:39:06,790 --> 01:39:04,480
they are saying a lot now if we

2522
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,800
again we don't have case references here

2523
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:08,960
what they were investigating

2524
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:12,239
but that i have a serious issue

2525
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:15,679
with if you go back to the jeremy

2526
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:18,239
corbell flying toaster video

2527
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:22,320
okay now we are talking recent 2019

2528
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:26,080
right it's 2019 2019.

2529
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:27,760
it's off the coast of california it's

2530
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:30,400
next to catalina uh not catalina uh

2531
01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:34,239
uh uh the island off the coast of uh san

2532
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:35,840
diego which is a live

2533
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:39,440
fire u.s navy um uh

2534
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:42,719
installation that if you look at the

2535
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:43,440
flying

2536
01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:46,080
toasters with the aircraft lights you

2537
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:49,520
know 40 knots whatever the speed is

2538
01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:53,440
that is either a foreign adversary

2539
01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:56,560
drone i don't know how it got there or

2540
01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:56,880
it's

2541
01:40:01,910 --> 01:39:59,840
ours and the way that this report is

2542
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:01,920
written

2543
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,080
did they take a look at that video it

2544
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,360
was supposed to have been

2545
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,679
a part of the report was this part of

2546
01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:08,960
their analysis

2547
01:40:12,870 --> 01:40:10,480
i think that's one of the clearly

2548
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,880
definable situations where they can

2549
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:14,239
identify

2550
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:16,560
because they have radar off the coast of

2551
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,880
of san diego they have radar on the

2552
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:19,760
island

2553
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:22,080
they have radar on the ships they are

2554
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,360
able to

2555
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:25,760
positively identify whatever that is

2556
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:27,119
friend or foe

2557
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:30,400
right i i i i find that very confusing

2558
01:40:33,510 --> 01:40:31,119
john

2559
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:33,520
it could very well be american airlines

2560
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,440
as well as the list that you gave

2561
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,520
and my point with this is that we have

2562
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:38,880
absolutely

2563
01:40:43,510 --> 01:40:42,960
zero true context of what we're looking

2564
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,520
at

2565
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,760
now jeremy to his credit did end up

2566
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:47,600
releasing like some of the dates

2567
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:49,040
that were involved in in the leaked

2568
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:50,719
footage that he put out

2569
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,000
and so so we had something to go on

2570
01:40:57,669 --> 01:40:56,639
what i still question is why the u.s

2571
01:41:00,070 --> 01:40:57,679
government will not

2572
01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,080
say whether or not that flying toasters

2573
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:02,000
i crack up every time you say that

2574
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,960
but you know are they toasters you know

2575
01:41:08,709 --> 01:41:06,000
what are they what

2576
01:41:10,870 --> 01:41:08,719
like why won't they label it because we

2577
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:10,880
know that the designation of uap is not

2578
01:41:14,629 --> 01:41:12,800
a classified designation

2579
01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,639
so they're not afraid to use it they

2580
01:41:17,830 --> 01:41:16,560
used it with the flear the gimbal and go

2581
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:17,840
fast with me in

2582
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:21,920
september of 2019 and and that showed me

2583
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,679
a couple of different things and that

2584
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,040
was mainly

2585
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:27,679
that the uap designation is not a

2586
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:29,920
classified designation meaning

2587
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:31,280
they don't have to get some kind of

2588
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:34,000
security clearance or or whatever to say

2589
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:35,920
yeah the flying toasters are actually

2590
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:39,360
unidentified or we consider them uap

2591
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,840
but rather they won't they'll say it was

2592
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:43,840
utilized by the uaptf

2593
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,639
in some way uh that it was an official

2594
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:48,239
video in the sense that it was taken by

2595
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:49,440
the u.s navy

2596
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:51,760
and that it was not edited or fabricated

2597
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,920
in any way so there's no cgi or

2598
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,840
or editing or anything like that right

2599
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:57,360
so they went on the record to say all of

2600
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,840
that

2601
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:59,520
but they wouldn't give the designation

2602
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,360
and i ask why like why

2603
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:03,280
won't they do it that's why i thought

2604
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:05,119
that that visual would potentially be in

2605
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:05,760
here

2606
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,199
are they using it because it's an

2607
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:09,040
american airlines flight shot with a

2608
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,080
night vision

2609
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:12,239
goggle with a triangle aperture and that

2610
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,280
is the effect

2611
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:15,440
so maybe whomever shot it didn't quite

2612
01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:16,480
realize it

2613
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:18,639
maybe who shot it knew exactly what he

2614
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:20,719
was doing and going hey look at this it

2615
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,080
looks like a flying

2616
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:25,040
triangle or pyramid or toaster and and

2617
01:42:27,830 --> 01:42:25,440
and

2618
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:27,840
passes it around it ends up getting into

2619
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:29,440
somebody's hands going i'm gonna throw

2620
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:30,320
this to some

2621
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:32,800
ufo guy now please don't you know write

2622
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:34,560
jeremy and say i'm i'm i'm

2623
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:36,560
saying that he's incapable of of doing

2624
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:37,840
his own research

2625
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,800
jeremy you know backs up what he says i

2626
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:42,800
don't always agree with teases and

2627
01:42:46,790 --> 01:42:45,040
and and prolonging the release of things

2628
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:46,800
but at least the material he's putting

2629
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,760
out there

2630
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,199
checks out in the sense that it's

2631
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:51,040
official 100

2632
01:42:54,310 --> 01:42:52,960
what isn't checking out though is that

2633
01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:54,320
unidentified

2634
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,159
designation and that's where we don't

2635
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:58,159
know the other thing that we don't know

2636
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,400
is

2637
01:43:01,990 --> 01:43:00,960
if whether or not that particular case

2638
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:02,000
the the the

2639
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:03,679
what i theorized was potentially the

2640
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:05,199
deflating balloon

2641
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:07,280
are those part of the 144 that were

2642
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:09,280
analyzed by the ua ptf and we don't have

2643
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,000
confirmation

2644
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:12,159
of that we talk about the the batman

2645
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:14,239
balloon you know that that particular

2646
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:15,920
case we haven't yet on this show but

2647
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:18,960
we've talked about it in the past and

2648
01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:22,080
for me when i look at those cases we

2649
01:43:25,510 --> 01:43:24,639
know historically that project blue book

2650
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:25,520
had a primer

2651
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:28,639
a reference pile of material that they

2652
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:31,199
would look at to potentially identify

2653
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:33,600
the cases that they were bringing in and

2654
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:34,560
we have to

2655
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:37,199
until we can't anymore consider the

2656
01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,639
possibility that this

2657
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:41,119
material that's leaking out is simply

2658
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,400
part of that primer

2659
01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:44,480
which is why no one cares that seemingly

2660
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:46,080
within the dod

2661
01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:48,480
uh that this stuff is leaking out like a

2662
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:49,280
sieve

2663
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:51,679
because it's the it's the explained

2664
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:52,639
category

2665
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:56,560
the natural atmospheric phenomena

2666
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:57,280
category

2667
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:59,360
the stuff that no one cares so they

2668
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:01,199
throw it out there and the ufo community

2669
01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:02,960
and the mainstream media does the rest

2670
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,920
aha this is a flying pyramid a ufo and

2671
01:44:10,550 --> 01:44:07,760
the government can't figure it out

2672
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,560
and the debunkers go go at it as well

2673
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:12,320
they also make stuff up

2674
01:44:16,229 --> 01:44:14,960
and they say ah-ha see that the uaptf is

2675
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:16,239
completely inept

2676
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:18,320
and they can't even identify it american

2677
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:19,920
airlines flight off the coast of san

2678
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:20,719
diego

2679
01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:23,840
when reality none of that is true

2680
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:24,880
yet from remember that

2681
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:26,480
counterintelligence standpoint that i

2682
01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:28,080
talked about it's not only for foreign

2683
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,040
adversaries

2684
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:31,199
it's to confuse the general public so

2685
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:33,119
much about the uap topic

2686
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:35,199
that now you have those in the general

2687
01:44:39,910 --> 01:44:38,080
public going to war with each other

2688
01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:39,920
and they're all making stuff up part of

2689
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:42,560
the story right they're not even using

2690
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,880
actual verifiable facts they're just

2691
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,560
saying the government says they can't

2692
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:48,480
identify it debunks or debunkers are

2693
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,960
saying

2694
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:50,320
they can't identify it because they're

2695
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,880
stupid yet none of that is true

2696
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:55,280
and and and that is not something i'm

2697
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:57,199
making up as i go here you just got to

2698
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:58,719
look at social media

2699
01:45:01,990 --> 01:45:01,440
and big names within social media that

2700
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:02,000
get a lot

2701
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,480
of play and traffic on their posts that

2702
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:05,920
all contribute to that

2703
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:08,239
on both sides of the debate so that's

2704
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,440
why i fall back to that

2705
01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:10,960
counterintelligence

2706
01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:13,199
opportunity for them because it's not

2707
01:45:16,870 --> 01:45:14,960
only to foreign adversaries

2708
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:16,880
but it's to the general public that then

2709
01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:19,119
when they start digging into this stuff

2710
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:21,520
and they start looking at it beyond just

2711
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:23,280
the surface stories on a

2712
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:26,239
uk tabloid or whatever things begin to

2713
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:27,360
fall apart

2714
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:29,679
there are too many questions that remain

2715
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,800
unanswered

2716
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:32,480
for some of these news stories to

2717
01:45:35,830 --> 01:45:33,920
essentially be true

2718
01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:35,840
and i think that that's part of part of

2719
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:37,119
that tactic

2720
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:38,800
make everybody so confused that they

2721
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:40,159
just don't care anymore

2722
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:42,480
that may not be true for audiences like

2723
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:43,760
this and myself

2724
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:46,480
obviously and and you will keep pushing

2725
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:47,360
for answers

2726
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,960
and we're not afraid to take something

2727
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,639
that was potentially in the catch-all

2728
01:45:54,790 --> 01:45:52,639
other bin and put it in natural

2729
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:54,800
phenomena because the evidence supports

2730
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:56,080
that and we move on

2731
01:45:59,830 --> 01:45:58,719
but the general public could potentially

2732
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:59,840
lose interest

2733
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:02,000
so didn't you you've got to deal with

2734
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:03,600
all possibilities no you have to you

2735
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:05,119
just wind it up and let it go

2736
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:07,840
and it it'll perpetuate all on its own

2737
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:08,400
and

2738
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:14,880
right it will just continue

2739
01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:17,280
now that's a really interesting uh point

2740
01:46:20,950 --> 01:46:18,159
john

2741
01:46:22,390 --> 01:46:20,960
and now with the uh the other stuff that

2742
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:22,400
was leaked

2743
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:25,840
i was hoping to see analysis george

2744
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:26,639
knapp

2745
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:29,280
popped out a couple of pictures that

2746
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,480
blew my mind

2747
01:46:37,030 --> 01:46:33,600
and one of them was the blimp that blimp

2748
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:37,040
that blimp image uh confused the heck

2749
01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:39,040
out of me and i loved it and i'm

2750
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:41,440
i'm glad it was leaked i wanted to see

2751
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,480
the analysis

2752
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:45,119
of that and the other images that were

2753
01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:46,239
there

2754
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:48,880
zero comments the flying toasters video

2755
01:46:54,270 --> 01:46:50,639
i needed comments on that

2756
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:54,280
do you think there is analysis in the

2757
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:55,520
78-page

2758
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:58,639
classified section of that where they

2759
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:02,400
have looked at and identified

2760
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:05,600
you know some of nap's images

2761
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:08,639
it's possible i tried to get them

2762
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:11,119
on sunday when i was talking to dni od

2763
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:12,880
and i i was asking them a couple of

2764
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:14,159
different questions

2765
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:15,760
the first one i had were their case

2766
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:18,639
specifics and locales and dates

2767
01:47:22,229 --> 01:47:21,119
the second was their visual imagery

2768
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:22,239
associated with it where their

2769
01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:23,920
photographs and or videos that they

2770
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:25,679
could potentially look at

2771
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:28,159
and how big was it how long was it page

2772
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:28,800
length

2773
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:31,280
i know there's some rumors out there uh

2774
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:33,119
i know that and i'll let you take the

2775
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:35,040
reins on saying where you learned the

2776
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:38,000
the page count i've heard 90 i've heard

2777
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:39,360
78 i've heard

2778
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:42,639
70. i've heard in the 20s all of which a

2779
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:44,560
lot stemmed from some have anonymous

2780
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:46,400
sources others i think are making it up

2781
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:47,840
as they go

2782
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,520
but i believe that you had it on an

2783
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:51,119
interview but again i'll let you

2784
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:53,360
take that part my whole point is is that

2785
01:47:57,669 --> 01:47:54,719
od and i will not

2786
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:57,679
admit to any of that they would not give

2787
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,480
me

2788
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:00,239
a yes or no on any of it and they would

2789
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:02,320
not give me the page length

2790
01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:04,239
and and i and i find that kind of

2791
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:05,840
interesting as well you know why

2792
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:08,480
why not you know is it 10 pages is it 15

2793
01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:09,840
is it 500 you know

2794
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:13,280
we don't we don't know again i think uh

2795
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,400
well i'll let you uh say it well i got

2796
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:18,960
my information from lou elizondo

2797
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:19,840
directly

2798
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:24,080
and most of it um some of it i haven't

2799
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:27,679
gone uh public with uh for

2800
01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:29,840
for reasons i mean it came from lou and

2801
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:31,679
that'll stay private

2802
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:34,560
but four or five of those things uh he

2803
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:35,199
did

2804
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:38,320
repeat on this show that were

2805
01:48:42,709 --> 01:48:40,719
i'm gonna man it's pretty accurate what

2806
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:42,719
he said and what the report ended up

2807
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:43,920
being

2808
01:48:47,830 --> 01:48:46,960
uh lou i think was was honest with me

2809
01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:47,840
and

2810
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:51,840
pretty

2811
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:55,920
accurate um that being said

2812
01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:59,199
the other parts of the classified

2813
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:01,199
whatever the classified section may be

2814
01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:05,840
78 pages if it is just an expansion of

2815
01:49:12,070 --> 01:49:09,360
this uh nine pages

2816
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:12,080
then what's classified you know what

2817
01:49:16,390 --> 01:49:13,920
what what does it matter if it's not

2818
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:16,400
little green men who gives a crap

2819
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:19,760
release it i mean what what could be

2820
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:24,159
classified for an adversary information

2821
01:49:29,189 --> 01:49:28,400
okay but the official word is as sources

2822
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:29,199
of methods

2823
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:32,159
they did not cite anything anything else

2824
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,560
uh

2825
01:49:35,669 --> 01:49:34,159
reasoning now that's my point though

2826
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:35,679
what's classified

2827
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:38,400
you know it it's if it's not going to be

2828
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:39,920
little green men

2829
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:42,000
then release it redact what you have to

2830
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:43,119
redact

2831
01:49:47,990 --> 01:49:47,199
but what is your analysis of these 144

2832
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:48,000
cases

2833
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:50,239
what was looked at what did you

2834
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:52,239
determine that's all and i think

2835
01:49:57,030 --> 01:49:54,880
the public needs to know this yeah and

2836
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:57,040
that's what the case that i created

2837
01:50:02,790 --> 01:50:00,239
through mdr is trying to accomplish

2838
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,800
that according to them the official word

2839
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:05,040
the classified aspects were considered

2840
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:06,480
sources and methods now they won't

2841
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,920
expand on that

2842
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,599
for obvious reasons you know where the

2843
01:50:13,990 --> 01:50:11,520
where did they get the uap

2844
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:14,000
uh information what type of sensors

2845
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,960
captured it

2846
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,800
so if those all encompass sources and

2847
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:19,040
methods okay fine i understand that

2848
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:21,679
but that's not going to be the entire

2849
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:22,960
report

2850
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,880
so there's a there's a big kind of

2851
01:50:28,709 --> 01:50:26,639
misunderstanding in the general public

2852
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:28,719
well it's classified you'll never see it

2853
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:31,119
and and i posted out that i had created

2854
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:32,080
this case

2855
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,679
just simply to kind of put it out in the

2856
01:50:37,589 --> 01:50:35,199
public realm that

2857
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:37,599
you know the door is not entirely shut

2858
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,040
it may eventually be

2859
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:41,119
and i get denied uh but i'm already

2860
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:42,400
writing the appeal so

2861
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:44,239
you know i'm i'm gonna fight this until

2862
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,400
the bitter end but there should be some

2863
01:50:50,709 --> 01:50:48,800
releasable portion and to your point

2864
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:50,719
the fleer the gimbal and the go fast

2865
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,360
were considered unclassified media

2866
01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:55,840
from the moment they were recorded by

2867
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:57,280
the f-18

2868
01:51:01,270 --> 01:51:00,320
and and and uh the the aircraft for the

2869
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,280
roosevelt

2870
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:04,080
so that media was considered

2871
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:06,239
unclassified from the get-go

2872
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:08,719
but was considered for official use only

2873
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,560
what that means in layman's terms is

2874
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:12,719
that there was no classification

2875
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:15,119
but it did require a security review to

2876
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:16,000
ensure

2877
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:17,840
that nothing sensitive but not

2878
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:19,440
classified but nothing sensitive would

2879
01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:20,400
be released

2880
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,880
and that's why it took until i don't

2881
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:24,000
forget the the

2882
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:25,280
happening it was about two and a half

2883
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:27,440
years yeah for them to release the

2884
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:29,199
medium they they acknowledged that it

2885
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:29,679
was

2886
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,920
real footage but but or they acknowledge

2887
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:33,199
what the designation was but they

2888
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:34,560
wouldn't acknowledge

2889
01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:37,520
releasing the official footage with that

2890
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:38,239
being said

2891
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:41,199
if if a lot of uap imagery from some of

2892
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:41,840
these under

2893
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,440
other 143 cases that lack any

2894
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:47,760
explanation are unclassified

2895
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:49,599
there's a huge possibility that that

2896
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:51,920
stuff will come out as well

2897
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,560
is it all classified well based on

2898
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,639
experience and provable evidence

2899
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,800
likely not everything that there should

2900
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:00,000
be something that will be

2901
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:02,719
releasable so my case aims to get those

2902
01:52:06,550 --> 01:52:04,159
little nuggets out

2903
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:06,560
and if there is no visual imagery then

2904
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:09,599
there's no way that 78 pages 70 whatever

2905
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:10,080
it is

2906
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:13,040
ultimately are all sources and methods

2907
01:52:15,750 --> 01:52:13,360
so

2908
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:15,760
give me you know get redacted go do what

2909
01:52:20,790 --> 01:52:17,440
you would do what you need to do

2910
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,800
but my mdrk says give me what you can

2911
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:22,639
and and that's what i'm essentially

2912
01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:24,480
fighting for because

2913
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:26,639
some of those dates some of those

2914
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:27,760
locales

2915
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:29,840
all of that you can put up a pretty good

2916
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:31,360
case that they would not be

2917
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:34,880
classified potentially the ship name or

2918
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:36,719
obviously the witness name all that

2919
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:38,480
stuff would either be exempt or

2920
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:41,040
classified but some of the other details

2921
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:42,400
would would likely not be

2922
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:44,080
and that's what i'm going for i don't

2923
01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:45,920
know what the over under is

2924
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:50,480
uh for the amount of days but

2925
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:55,520
i would bet that the 78-page classified

2926
01:53:02,629 --> 01:52:59,599
report gets leaked before you get mdr

2927
01:53:04,870 --> 01:53:02,639
results i'm telling you right now

2928
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,880
i i think i think it gets leaked i just

2929
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:06,719
don't know what the over under is is it

2930
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:08,320
going to be a couple of weeks

2931
01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:09,920
it's going to be seven days is it going

2932
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:12,880
to be a month but that thing is leaking

2933
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:15,840
i i wrestle with that one and then if it

2934
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,760
does end up leaking and we see some type

2935
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:20,000
of report will we believe it

2936
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:21,840
you know i mean will we really think

2937
01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:23,920
okay is this the classified version i

2938
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:25,679
mean until rubio confirms like yeah

2939
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:27,760
that's what we saw and it leaked

2940
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:30,000
i just i don't i don't see it there's

2941
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:31,360
something else too about you don't see

2942
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,119
it leaking

2943
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:36,080
i do it's possible it wouldn't surprise

2944
01:53:40,149 --> 01:53:36,480
me

2945
01:53:41,990 --> 01:53:40,159
reason is is because you look at what

2946
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:42,000
has leaked in the last

2947
01:53:45,990 --> 01:53:44,080
you know couple of years and those those

2948
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:46,000
three original videos in the eyes of the

2949
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:47,599
government were leaks

2950
01:53:53,109 --> 01:53:51,040
uh you look at the recent blimp

2951
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:53,119
sphere you know all those other

2952
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,080
nicknames for that

2953
01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:56,800
material the toaster toaster video i

2954
01:54:00,629 --> 01:53:57,520
love that

2955
01:54:01,270 --> 01:54:00,639
uh all of that stuff really didn't have

2956
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:01,280
anything

2957
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:03,840
sensitive in it maybe it was ultimately

2958
01:54:09,430 --> 01:54:06,080
classified we don't really know yet

2959
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:09,440
but but there's nothing truly sensitive

2960
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:10,880
about it because you can't really

2961
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:13,040
determine what the heck is going on

2962
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:16,159
we have theories and ideas desires what

2963
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,040
it is

2964
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,880
uh but we have nothing that that is

2965
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:20,400
truly identifiable

2966
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:23,199
as as being sensitive the report is

2967
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:24,239
different

2968
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,000
now you're you're really playing with

2969
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,920
fire if you take that thing

2970
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,840
and you put it out into the cosmos so to

2971
01:54:33,589 --> 01:54:31,440
speak for people to look at

2972
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:33,599
because those sources and methods those

2973
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:34,480
are

2974
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,119
heavily guarded secrets the national

2975
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,880
security agency and my experience with

2976
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:40,320
them as a prime example

2977
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,639
when they get material intelligence

2978
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,560
whatever from sources and methods

2979
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:46,159
that stuff is highly exempt and

2980
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:47,840
classified so

2981
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:50,560
you are playing with fire if you take

2982
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,320
that type of information

2983
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:54,880
and put it out because now you're you're

2984
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,000
you're treading into

2985
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:58,320
edward snowden territory there yeah

2986
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:00,320
whether it's secret or top secret but

2987
01:55:02,709 --> 01:55:02,159
it's dangerous okay let me jump in

2988
01:55:04,629 --> 01:55:02,719
because

2989
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:04,639
at the break when we come back we're

2990
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:05,760
gonna talk about the

2991
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:09,440
memorandum um but before we get there

2992
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,199
we've got seven minutes six minutes the

2993
01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:15,760
pilots that took the batman balloon

2994
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:17,119
picture i don't think it's batman

2995
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:19,360
balloon i know you do batman balloon the

2996
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:19,920
blimp

2997
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:22,960
right the sphere uh

2998
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:26,719
the toaster maybe even dave fravor

2999
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:29,440
their testimony about distance and size

3000
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:32,960
and time and movement and speed

3001
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:36,400
that supports these images

3002
01:55:39,669 --> 01:55:39,360
do you think that these agencies went

3003
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:39,679
and

3004
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:42,880
interviewed the pilots that took these

3005
01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:43,840
pictures

3006
01:55:49,910 --> 01:55:46,800
and is their testimony possibly part of

3007
01:55:53,109 --> 01:55:49,920
the classified report

3008
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:53,119
i would hope so i i mean i would have do

3009
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:54,719
i know that for a fact no but i would

3010
01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:56,560
hope that that anybody

3011
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:58,960
that was able to be tied to a uap case

3012
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:00,000
that the task force

3013
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:02,880
looked at that that was the first step

3014
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:04,639
of their investigation as you talked to

3015
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:05,920
the witness

3016
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,719
and and i don't know if we want to go

3017
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:10,400
down this route but that has always been

3018
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,520
a concern of mine

3019
01:56:15,750 --> 01:56:14,239
talking about the atip thing with uh

3020
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:15,760
pilots such as

3021
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,239
uh her name is out now but alex dietrich

3022
01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:19,760
she was always referred to as the female

3023
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:20,480
pilot

3024
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:22,719
and david fravor who didn't meet luis

3025
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:24,719
elizondo until the month before he

3026
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:27,119
retired and so the question mark was

3027
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:28,320
well who

3028
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:29,760
interviewed them because you would think

3029
01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:31,440
that somebody like them would be on

3030
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:32,480
speed dial

3031
01:56:36,229 --> 01:56:34,239
you know and and so there's a lot of

3032
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,239
unanswered questions are they doing

3033
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:38,560
the investigations the right way and i'm

3034
01:56:41,189 --> 01:56:39,679
sure there's some that are going to

3035
01:56:43,189 --> 01:56:41,199
listen to me say something like that and

3036
01:56:45,510 --> 01:56:43,199
cringe and go john's being mean again

3037
01:56:48,390 --> 01:56:45,520
and i'm really not not at all but no but

3038
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:48,400
i but we have to ask those questions on

3039
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:51,360
how thorough are they being when they're

3040
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,760
investigating these types of cases

3041
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,679
and if they're underfunded unmanned

3042
01:56:57,990 --> 01:56:57,280
unstaffed and they don't have enough

3043
01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:58,000
time

3044
01:57:01,430 --> 01:57:00,159
that in itself should be noted you know

3045
01:57:03,030 --> 01:57:01,440
that they don't have enough time to

3046
01:57:05,350 --> 01:57:03,040
track someone down or

3047
01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:05,360
whatever squadron they might be on they

3048
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,719
just got you know

3049
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,639
got the report passed on and so they

3050
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:10,719
only use that if there is a report at

3051
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:11,360
all that

3052
01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:13,840
gets passed on you know that those are

3053
01:57:16,629 --> 01:57:15,760
all questions that we really truly need

3054
01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:16,639
to ask

3055
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:18,480
because it plays into a role on this

3056
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:19,840
actual report

3057
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:22,800
and and starts to define why there are

3058
01:57:25,030 --> 01:57:23,360
18

3059
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,040
incidents that have the characteristics

3060
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:27,760
that there are why 143 are still

3061
01:57:31,669 --> 01:57:28,320
considered

3062
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:31,679
unexplained you know what what effort

3063
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:32,560
went into

3064
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:35,760
i identify them if at all and

3065
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:38,239
and i would hope that the interviews

3066
01:57:41,750 --> 01:57:38,960
would be

3067
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:41,760
step number zero you know before you

3068
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:42,400
that's right

3069
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:45,520
i mean the batman is

3070
01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:49,840
as uh amazing as that photograph is

3071
01:57:53,189 --> 01:57:52,639
it's still just a photograph we need to

3072
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:53,199
know

3073
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:55,360
from the pi how big how far away from

3074
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:56,719
your plane what you know what

3075
01:58:00,149 --> 01:57:58,880
what was the size of it was it moved was

3076
01:58:02,390 --> 01:58:00,159
it and that

3077
01:58:03,350 --> 01:58:02,400
the blimp that blimp photograph that

3078
01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:03,360
thing is as

3079
01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:05,920
interstellar as anything i've ever seen

3080
01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:07,119
right if we're gonna go

3081
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:10,080
you know down that road that doesn't

3082
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,800
look like anything i've ever seen before

3083
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:15,360
well how big was it was it moving what

3084
01:58:19,350 --> 01:58:17,599
did the pilot see how far away was how

3085
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:19,360
many pictures did you take

3086
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:23,440
yeah right all of this is is fundamental

3087
01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:25,679
with this that that's that supporting

3088
01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:26,880
testimony

3089
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:29,040
it's got to be somewhere it's there's

3090
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:31,440
there's got to be a record of it john

3091
01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:33,599
i i'm a broken record saying this but

3092
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:34,560
i'll say it again

3093
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:37,599
context is key and we don't know if they

3094
01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:39,520
ask those pilots hey what did you see

3095
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,800
how far away from

3096
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,400
you know we don't know if any of that

3097
01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:44,480
took place we don't know and it sounds

3098
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:46,239
like you don't think it's a balloon but

3099
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:48,000
again hypothetically speaking it's a

3100
01:58:52,470 --> 01:58:50,480
balloon what if the context was they

3101
01:58:53,350 --> 01:58:52,480
start going around going holy moly look

3102
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:53,360
at that

3103
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,599
a balloon made it up this high you know

3104
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:57,599
let's let's flip around let's let's take

3105
01:59:01,109 --> 01:58:59,199
a picture of this and they all laugh

3106
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:01,119
with their buddies and then essentially

3107
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:03,119
you know that finds its way out i'm not

3108
01:59:05,510 --> 01:59:04,639
saying i'd bet my house that that's the

3109
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:05,520
thing but what

3110
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:08,719
my point is is context is truly

3111
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key to understanding these types of

3112
01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:13,760
videos and visual imagery

3113
01:59:17,589 --> 01:59:16,080
with the flea or the gimbal and go fast

3114
01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:17,599
we know for a fact

3115
01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:21,119
unidentified they're uap that's context

3116
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:23,199
now we can look at the the witness

3117
01:59:25,830 --> 01:59:24,159
testimony

3118
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:25,840
with just a little bit of a different

3119
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:27,199
look to it

3120
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because we have an official

3121
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:30,719
acknowledgement they're unidentified

3122
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:33,440
the other stuff we have no witnesses no

3123
01:59:36,470 --> 01:59:34,320
testimony

3124
01:59:37,510 --> 01:59:36,480
we have no official designation we kind

3125
01:59:39,430 --> 01:59:37,520
of have nothing

3126
01:59:41,910 --> 01:59:39,440
and so the general public does what it

3127
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does best and essentially looks at it

3128
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:43,040
and translates it

3129
01:59:47,030 --> 01:59:45,360
in the best way that they want i'm not

3130
01:59:49,109 --> 01:59:47,040
saying everybody does that right but you

3131
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:49,119
see a lot of people do that mainstream

3132
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:50,719
media is also to blame

3133
01:59:54,390 --> 01:59:52,800
if they want to see a ufo they call it

3134
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:54,400
that they want to see something

3135
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:56,320
interstellar otherworldly they call it

3136
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:56,880
that

3137
02:00:00,070 --> 01:59:58,960
and and so you create and craft a

3138
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narrative

3139
02:00:03,830 --> 02:00:02,239
that's based on absolutely no context

3140
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:03,840
whatsoever and that's what makes

3141
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a lot of this challenging absolutely

3142
02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:07,760
great point let's take our break right

3143
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:09,679
here i guess tonight john greenwald

3144
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:12,560
we're talking about the uaptf report and

3145
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next uh when we come back after the

3146
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break

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we're gonna talk about the memorandum

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why is this important well john's gonna

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jimmy church i just

3253
02:05:17,109 --> 02:05:16,159
john tweeted out uh the memo that we are

3254
02:05:20,629 --> 02:05:17,119
going to discuss

3255
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:20,639
right now and i did a retweet on it and

3256
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:23,920
i would like for john just said so you

3257
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can follow along

3258
02:05:29,990 --> 02:05:27,360
absolutely you need to look at that so

3259
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:30,000
we've got it up there there's no excuses

3260
02:05:36,069 --> 02:05:33,679
um i want to uh before we get to that

3261
02:05:37,669 --> 02:05:36,079
back to the report really quick um there

3262
02:05:40,069 --> 02:05:37,679
were two things that

3263
02:05:41,990 --> 02:05:40,079
uh were at the end of the report this is

3264
02:05:46,069 --> 02:05:42,000
uh page six

3265
02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:46,079
and uh not not the uk's page six this is

3266
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:48,639
the ua ptf's paychecks

3267
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:51,360
and it says ongoing aerospace concerns

3268
02:05:57,270 --> 02:05:54,719
the uaptf has 11 reports of documented

3269
02:05:59,990 --> 02:05:57,280
instances in which pilots reported

3270
02:06:01,830 --> 02:06:00,000
near misses with uap i want to know what

3271
02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:01,840
those were and

3272
02:06:05,270 --> 02:06:04,480
could it be what happened over between

3273
02:06:07,750 --> 02:06:05,280
phoenix and

3274
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,760
albuquerque a couple of years ago john i

3275
02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:09,040
think that was a

3276
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:11,360
a very important case that broke i think

3277
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:12,320
uh tyler

3278
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:16,320
uh broke that story and also the faa 18s

3279
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:19,679
um off the coast of oregon uh just prior

3280
02:06:26,950 --> 02:06:23,360
to that and those were faa

3281
02:06:30,149 --> 02:06:26,960
documented reports that were released

3282
02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:30,159
but then they followed up with this

3283
02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:32,880
we currently lack data to indicate any

3284
02:06:35,510 --> 02:06:33,520
uap

3285
02:06:36,790 --> 02:06:35,520
or part of a foreign collection program

3286
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:36,800
or indicative

3287
02:06:41,669 --> 02:06:39,679
of a major technological advancement by

3288
02:06:44,229 --> 02:06:41,679
a potential adversary

3289
02:06:45,709 --> 02:06:44,239
we continue to monitor for evidence of

3290
02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:45,719
such programs given the

3291
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:46,880
counterintelligence

3292
02:06:50,069 --> 02:06:49,520
challenge they would pose particularly

3293
02:06:53,030 --> 02:06:50,079
as

3294
02:06:55,430 --> 02:06:53,040
some uap have been detected near

3295
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:55,440
military facilities or by aircraft

3296
02:07:01,350 --> 02:06:57,520
carrying the u.s government's most

3297
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:01,360
advanced sensor systems

3298
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:05,679
key key and this flows into

3299
02:07:13,189 --> 02:07:09,760
the memo right to an ongoing collection

3300
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:13,199
effort and and and what is to be done

3301
02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:15,760
you immediately followed up john i'm not

3302
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:17,360
going to put words in your mouth but you

3303
02:07:23,669 --> 02:07:19,840
said hey the report is one thing

3304
02:07:25,510 --> 02:07:23,679
this is the takeaway from the report

3305
02:07:27,109 --> 02:07:25,520
and and you wanted to make everybody

3306
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:27,119
aware of it

3307
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:29,840
what is the memo who wrote it and uh

3308
02:07:34,390 --> 02:07:31,440
let's go through it

3309
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:34,400
sure so yeah the reason why i did find

3310
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:34,800
it

3311
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:36,400
fascinating is not only the content

3312
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:38,000
which we'll get into but the fact that

3313
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:38,400
it was

3314
02:07:41,430 --> 02:07:40,560
issued directly after the report being

3315
02:07:45,270 --> 02:07:41,440
published

3316
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:45,280
by odni and it this has nothing nor is

3317
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:46,159
it referenced

3318
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:49,199
in the report what happened was odni the

3319
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,320
office of the director of national

3320
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:52,000
intelligence publishes the uap

3321
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:54,800
report within and i don't have an exact

3322
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:56,639
time stamp because because dod didn't

3323
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:58,639
time stamp their press release

3324
02:08:02,629 --> 02:08:00,960
that i saw but uh shortly thereafter

3325
02:08:04,950 --> 02:08:02,639
within an hour or so

3326
02:08:06,709 --> 02:08:04,960
they had dropped a press release

3327
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:06,719
highlighting a memorandum from the

3328
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:08,079
deputy secretary

3329
02:08:12,709 --> 02:08:10,880
of defense now this was a memo for all

3330
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:12,719
senior pentagon leadership

3331
02:08:17,030 --> 02:08:14,400
commanders of the combatant commands

3332
02:08:18,149 --> 02:08:17,040
defense agency and dod field activity

3333
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,159
directors

3334
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:20,719
essentially what they did with this

3335
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:21,599
memorandum

3336
02:08:25,350 --> 02:08:24,400
is took the report and the findings of

3337
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:25,360
it

3338
02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:30,639
and that's what was amazing to me was

3339
02:08:33,830 --> 02:08:32,239
that

3340
02:08:35,910 --> 02:08:33,840
you know it's one thing to have the

3341
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:35,920
report it's another thing to have

3342
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:36,800
actions

3343
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:39,040
based on the report and then it's a

3344
02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:40,960
third thing entirely to have actions

3345
02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:42,159
based on that report

3346
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:44,960
within like an hour or two and that's

3347
02:08:49,189 --> 02:08:47,280
what was amazing to me that the dod then

3348
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:49,199
started instructing

3349
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:50,880
those that i just mentioned via this

3350
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:53,360
memorandum there's a date stamp there's

3351
02:08:58,149 --> 02:08:54,960
a date stamp june 25th

3352
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:58,159
2021 yeah the day that the report was

3353
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:58,560
issued

3354
02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:01,199
that's right and so they sent this out

3355
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:03,440
saying based on this report this is what

3356
02:09:07,589 --> 02:09:04,480
we want you to

3357
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:07,599
to do and to quickly summarize it it is

3358
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:11,119
it is formalizing a process to create

3359
02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:14,000
uap reports and have them submitted to

3360
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:15,360
the proper channels

3361
02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:18,960
within two weeks of any event happening

3362
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:21,440
and this didn't just hit the u.s navy

3363
02:09:25,589 --> 02:09:23,360
which is what we keep hearing about

3364
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:25,599
but the u.s air force and all other

3365
02:09:28,950 --> 02:09:26,880
military branches

3366
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:28,960
and beyond essentially what they're

3367
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:31,440
trying to do is the navy

3368
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:33,360
has obviously been the most serious

3369
02:09:35,189 --> 02:09:34,800
about this they're the ones that are the

3370
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:35,199
most

3371
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:37,199
vocal and they're obviously the ones

3372
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:38,960
with the most publicly known

3373
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,560
cases but you know that uap whatever the

3374
02:09:45,830 --> 02:09:43,920
source of it is

3375
02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:45,840
is not going to be unique to the u.s

3376
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:47,040
navy it will hit

3377
02:09:50,470 --> 02:09:49,280
every pilot it doesn't matter if you're

3378
02:09:53,189 --> 02:09:50,480
flying a

3379
02:09:53,669 --> 02:09:53,199
you know u.s navy uh aircraft a u.s air

3380
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:53,679
force

3381
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:57,119
jet or flying for united airlines

3382
02:10:00,950 --> 02:09:59,520
uap or uap and they're gonna you know

3383
02:10:02,550 --> 02:10:00,960
they're they're gonna affect you in

3384
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:02,560
whatever way that they are

3385
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:05,520
uh and i don't think that there's any uh

3386
02:10:08,310 --> 02:10:06,320
you know there's

3387
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:08,320
there's any difference between anybody

3388
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:10,800
flying in the sky the phenomena is real

3389
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:12,159
so what they're trying to do is

3390
02:10:16,390 --> 02:10:14,639
formalize that process to essentially

3391
02:10:17,669 --> 02:10:16,400
take the data set that they have which

3392
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,679
is very limited

3393
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:20,320
and increase it exponentially with not

3394
02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:20,800
only

3395
02:10:23,910 --> 02:10:22,800
those reports coming in from the u.s

3396
02:10:26,950 --> 02:10:23,920
navy but

3397
02:10:29,589 --> 02:10:26,960
add in the coast guard the air force

3398
02:10:30,629 --> 02:10:29,599
hopefully commercial airline pilots and

3399
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:30,639
and essentially

3400
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,800
increase that data set to fully

3401
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,560
understand the phenomena

3402
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:37,119
try to identify the trends try to

3403
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:39,040
identify the characteristics

3404
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:41,840
try to identify percentages of how many

3405
02:10:45,350 --> 02:10:43,679
are showing what potentially could be a

3406
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:45,360
breakthrough technology

3407
02:10:49,910 --> 02:10:48,800
and and expand in that way and it's one

3408
02:10:52,310 --> 02:10:49,920
thing

3409
02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:52,320
for the report to recommend that it's

3410
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:53,760
another for the dod

3411
02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:56,480
to start the process and in my opinion

3412
02:10:59,990 --> 02:10:57,440
this memorandum

3413
02:11:00,950 --> 02:11:00,000
started that process quickly which is

3414
02:11:04,470 --> 02:11:00,960
going to be

3415
02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:04,480
fascinating to see unfold who wrote

3416
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:07,520
the memo so kathleen hicks is the deputy

3417
02:11:10,629 --> 02:11:09,199
secretary of defense so you're pretty

3418
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:10,639
much going towards the top

3419
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:12,880
of the dod yeah stop right there stop

3420
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:14,159
right there

3421
02:11:20,310 --> 02:11:17,280
deputy secretary of defense and that is

3422
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:20,320
the letterhead everybody right

3423
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:23,280
deputy secretary of defense it is signed

3424
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:24,719
sealed and delivered

3425
02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:28,719
by her she says this line

3426
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:33,440
um which i think is it's very serious

3427
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:36,719
but it's it's it's to the point

3428
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:40,560
she says i direct the office of the

3429
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:42,400
under secretary of defense for

3430
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:44,400
intelligence and security

3431
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:46,960
to develop a plan to formalize the

3432
02:11:54,709 --> 02:11:50,719
mission currently performed by the uaptf

3433
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:54,719
that's it right i direct

3434
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:57,920
so how binding is this memo if

3435
02:12:02,310 --> 02:12:00,960
she is the deputy uh secretary of

3436
02:12:04,870 --> 02:12:02,320
defense

3437
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:04,880
very binding by their own definition the

3438
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:05,920
dev debsec def

3439
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:08,560
is essentially the one in charge of the

3440
02:12:12,550 --> 02:12:10,000
defense department's

3441
02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:12,560
day-to-day business so just because

3442
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:14,320
she's the deputy she's got a lot of

3443
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:15,840
responsibility

3444
02:12:20,149 --> 02:12:17,840
for those curious the the secretary of

3445
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:20,159
defense's job oversees the defense

3446
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:21,040
department

3447
02:12:25,270 --> 02:12:23,040
and acts as the principal defense policy

3448
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:25,280
maker and advisor so those are quotes

3449
02:12:29,750 --> 02:12:28,000
according to the dod's official job

3450
02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:29,760
description of of both

3451
02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:32,880
so the depsec def is very very

3452
02:12:36,790 --> 02:12:35,360
involved obviously with the day-to-day

3453
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:36,800
business of the dod

3454
02:12:40,709 --> 02:12:39,280
and she meaning kathleen hicks who wrote

3455
02:12:43,030 --> 02:12:40,719
the memorandum

3456
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:43,040
this is as binding as as it gets i mean

3457
02:12:47,109 --> 02:12:45,119
this isn't a recommendation this is

3458
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:47,119
essentially a mandate that they are to

3459
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:48,960
establish procedures

3460
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:50,800
to synchronize collection reporting and

3461
02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:52,000
analysis on the uf

3462
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:54,159
uap problem set uh there's a couple

3463
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:55,840
other mandates in there as well

3464
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:57,040
we're gonna essentially she's

3465
02:12:59,830 --> 02:12:59,280
formalizing this whole process yes yes

3466
02:13:01,589 --> 02:12:59,840
yes and

3467
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:01,599
in the little time that we have i want

3468
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:03,840
to stress with everybody

3469
02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:07,119
uh how direct formal

3470
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:10,800
and serious this memorandum is

3471
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:12,800
i want to get to the three points that

3472
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:14,480
she addresses here but

3473
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:17,840
she ends the memorandum with this

3474
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:20,960
all members all

3475
02:13:24,390 --> 02:13:23,119
all members of the department will

3476
02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:24,400
utilize these

3477
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:27,679
processes to ensure that the uap

3478
02:13:35,109 --> 02:13:31,760
task force or its follow-on activity

3479
02:13:36,229 --> 02:13:35,119
has reports of uap observations within

3480
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:36,239
two weeks

3481
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:40,000
of an occurrence full stop

3482
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:43,199
right now the the three processes

3483
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:45,760
that she's talking about are i'll let

3484
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:47,840
you go ahead and go with number one

3485
02:13:51,750 --> 02:13:49,920
sure establish procedures to synchronize

3486
02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:51,760
collection reporting and analysis on the

3487
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:52,320
uap

3488
02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:53,920
problem set and to establish

3489
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:55,679
recommendations for securing military

3490
02:13:59,910 --> 02:13:57,440
tests and training ranges

3491
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:59,920
the second identify requirements for the

3492
02:14:02,629 --> 02:14:01,679
establishment and operation of the new

3493
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:02,639
activity

3494
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,800
to include the organizational alignment

3495
02:14:10,149 --> 02:14:07,199
resources and staffing required

3496
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:10,159
as well as any necessary authorities and

3497
02:14:14,310 --> 02:14:12,159
a timeline for implementation

3498
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:14,320
the third item be developed in

3499
02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:15,280
coordination

3500
02:14:19,510 --> 02:14:17,599
with the principal staff assistants the

3501
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:19,520
chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

3502
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:21,040
the secretaries of the military

3503
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:23,440
departments and the commanders of the

3504
02:14:28,470 --> 02:14:25,040
combatant commands

3505
02:14:31,510 --> 02:14:28,480
and with the dni and other relevant

3506
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:31,520
interagency partners that really

3507
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:35,679
drives home the expansion of the effort

3508
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,320
of not only the ua ptf but to figure out

3509
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:40,000
what this phenomena is

3510
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:43,040
that to me is what made this so

3511
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:46,320
fascinating because this truly expands

3512
02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:48,159
that effort to something

3513
02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:50,400
real now i hope this doesn't fall to the

3514
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:52,800
wayside nor do i think it will

3515
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,880
but i hope it doesn't because what

3516
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:56,000
they're doing here

3517
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:59,040
is essentially i'll say it this way

3518
02:15:01,669 --> 02:15:00,560
they're creating a heck of a lot of foia

3519
02:15:03,830 --> 02:15:01,679
fodder for me

3520
02:15:05,830 --> 02:15:03,840
uh because when these reports happen

3521
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:05,840
those are all foiable i mean they they

3522
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:07,440
may be exempt

3523
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:09,840
while the investigations are ongoing but

3524
02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:11,440
this potentially will give

3525
02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:14,960
insight into the uap issue and the ufo

3526
02:15:19,270 --> 02:15:16,000
phenomena for

3527
02:15:22,149 --> 02:15:19,280
years to come if they truly take this

3528
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:22,159
seriously and it may not be tomorrow but

3529
02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:24,560
eventually these catch-all other bin

3530
02:15:30,229 --> 02:15:27,679
type cases will see the light of day

3531
02:15:32,229 --> 02:15:30,239
and we will see how this phenomena has

3532
02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:32,239
not only gone throughout the last 70

3533
02:15:36,950 --> 02:15:34,320
years from the 40s and beyond

3534
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:36,960
showing that it is real it is tangible

3535
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:39,119
it's three-dimensional it's physical and

3536
02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:41,520
it's problematic but it continues to

3537
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:42,480
this day

3538
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:45,520
and and if they truly can't solve this

3539
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:46,400
quickly

3540
02:15:50,069 --> 02:15:48,560
that to me is really going to make this

3541
02:15:52,390 --> 02:15:50,079
whole phenomena even more

3542
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:52,400
fascinating because with the technology

3543
02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:53,199
they have

3544
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:55,520
with the advances they want to take and

3545
02:15:58,550 --> 02:15:57,679
now the manpower that kathleen hicks is

3546
02:16:00,470 --> 02:15:58,560
mandating

3547
02:16:01,990 --> 02:16:00,480
that we throw at this man and woman

3548
02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:02,000
power before i get letters

3549
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:04,239
um that we're gonna throw all of this at

3550
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:05,520
it uh

3551
02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:08,320
they they are formalizing this process

3552
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:09,199
into something

3553
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,920
tangible and something worthwhile and

3554
02:16:16,149 --> 02:16:13,440
and that's where i say

3555
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:16,159
i'm fascinated to see it play out simply

3556
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:17,199
because we have

3557
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:19,520
no idea where we're going to end up and

3558
02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:21,199
how many cases we may

3559
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:24,320
come up with now the

3560
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:27,360
uh oh by the way i just tweeted uh

3561
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:31,850
that out foyable john's new word

3562
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:36,399
[Laughter]

3563
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,960
it should be in the dictionary is it no

3564
02:16:40,950 --> 02:16:39,599
if it's not

3565
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:40,960
no it's not in the john greenwald

3566
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:42,559
dictionary yes i make up words all the

3567
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:45,200
time oh man that's an awesome word now

3568
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:48,080
but for those out there and i and i

3569
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:49,840
understand why

3570
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:52,960
but that stated that the

3571
02:16:57,190 --> 02:16:55,519
ua ptf report was a big nothing burger

3572
02:16:59,830 --> 02:16:57,200
there was nothing here it's

3573
02:17:01,669 --> 02:16:59,840
bureaucratic boilerplate word speak that

3574
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:01,679
didn't say anything

3575
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,120
okay all right that's fine

3576
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:07,519
but this memorandum wouldn't have

3577
02:17:12,950 --> 02:17:08,639
happened

3578
02:17:14,070 --> 02:17:12,960
if it wasn't for the ua ptf report right

3579
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:14,080
john i mean that

3580
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:16,000
if something comes out of this report

3581
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:17,840
well we have this

3582
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:19,840
yeah and i think that that is the

3583
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,679
biggest win

3584
02:17:25,509 --> 02:17:24,000
at this point from that report that yes

3585
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,519
we're all let down there weren't more

3586
02:17:30,309 --> 02:17:27,280
visuals there weren't more

3587
02:17:31,589 --> 02:17:30,319
cases dates and stuff like that but this

3588
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:31,599
is the result

3589
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:33,439
that there was enough information

3590
02:17:37,349 --> 02:17:34,639
whether it be in the

3591
02:17:38,150 --> 02:17:37,359
other catch-all bin or whatever it may

3592
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:38,160
be

3593
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:40,160
to tell the depsec deaf to create a

3594
02:17:44,230 --> 02:17:42,240
memorandum for all senior pentagon

3595
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:44,240
leadership and all combatant commands to

3596
02:17:46,709 --> 02:17:45,200
do this

3597
02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:46,719
you're not talking about floating

3598
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:48,960
plastic bags and ice crystals

3599
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:50,800
you're talking about something that is

3600
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:53,599
real and something that they realize at

3601
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:55,599
this point regardless of the

3602
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:58,000
quote-unquote small number of cases that

3603
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:59,840
they that they have that may be of

3604
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:00,719
interest

3605
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:03,679
they realize if they expand this effort

3606
02:18:07,910 --> 02:18:05,760
that small number of cases will

3607
02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:07,920
increase exponentially and from an

3608
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:09,679
intelligence standpoint that will help

3609
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:10,399
them

3610
02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:12,880
understand this phenomena and take the

3611
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:13,599
next step

3612
02:18:17,030 --> 02:18:16,319
into whatever they need to do with it

3613
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:17,040
and and

3614
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:19,840
and potentially combat against it deal

3615
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,639
with it

3616
02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:23,040
catch it in the air whatever it might be

3617
02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:24,960
uh but essentially that that gives them

3618
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:25,840
the next step

3619
02:18:29,669 --> 02:18:28,080
so when people looked at the at the at

3620
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:29,679
the uap report

3621
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:32,080
and they come up with the with the uh

3622
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:34,559
very commonly said that's a big nothing

3623
02:18:38,870 --> 02:18:36,960
burger there's nothing there let this

3624
02:18:40,790 --> 02:18:38,880
memorandum speak to you

3625
02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:40,800
that the department of defense took the

3626
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:43,040
findings of that report and albeit the

3627
02:18:47,790 --> 02:18:44,800
classified one as well

3628
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:47,800
and decided to expand their effort

3629
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:49,120
exponentially

3630
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:50,880
throughout the entire department of

3631
02:18:56,469 --> 02:18:53,200
defense and beyond infrastructure

3632
02:18:58,150 --> 02:18:56,479
to expand the effort that to me shows me

3633
02:19:00,389 --> 02:18:58,160
that however many pages the

3634
02:19:01,270 --> 02:19:00,399
the classified version ends up being

3635
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:01,280
there was enough

3636
02:19:05,669 --> 02:19:03,439
in there for the department of defense

3637
02:19:08,309 --> 02:19:05,679
to admit ignorance

3638
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:08,319
to admit that they just truly don't

3639
02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:09,599
understand it

3640
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,960
and to say we need to fix it and whether

3641
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:14,160
that be money or

3642
02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:17,439
or whatever their their their desire is

3643
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,679
the bottom line is they've admitted the

3644
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:21,920
phenomena is something they need

3645
02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:24,639
to understand and that to me is a step

3646
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:25,519
forward so

3647
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:27,519
that's not a nothing burger because if

3648
02:19:31,990 --> 02:19:29,200
it truly was a nothing burger

3649
02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:32,000
and the classified uh report said all

3650
02:19:34,950 --> 02:19:33,280
right look guys we need to

3651
02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:34,960
tell the public we don't know about a

3652
02:19:38,549 --> 02:19:36,880
couple of these things but truly there's

3653
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,559
special access programs that we can't

3654
02:19:42,309 --> 02:19:39,840
talk about yet

3655
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:42,319
uh so let's just you know let's just let

3656
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:44,080
the public do whatever they do

3657
02:19:47,830 --> 02:19:45,760
we wouldn't see this memo if that was

3658
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:47,840
the case right they wouldn't try and put

3659
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:49,120
a spotlight on it

3660
02:19:52,550 --> 02:19:50,720
to essentially put themselves in a

3661
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:52,560
pickle in the future to have to reveal

3662
02:19:55,750 --> 02:19:53,680
some of those saps

3663
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:55,760
so what they what they would do is just

3664
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:56,960
let it go away

3665
02:20:01,030 --> 02:19:59,120
let the uap report float out there for a

3666
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:01,040
little bit yes it's preliminary and

3667
02:20:06,150 --> 02:20:02,880
we're all hoping for another one

3668
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:06,160
i'm not i'm not sold or or convinced

3669
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:07,120
that we're going to see it

3670
02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:09,200
but regardless if that's truly what was

3671
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:10,240
going on here

3672
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:12,319
they would let it die on the vine but

3673
02:20:16,790 --> 02:20:14,560
the reality is they took the report the

3674
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:16,800
findings the classified findings

3675
02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:19,600
and they did this and that to me is huge

3676
02:20:23,670 --> 02:20:20,160
now

3677
02:20:25,349 --> 02:20:23,680
uh the in closing

3678
02:20:26,710 --> 02:20:25,359
i want to get to probably the most

3679
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:26,720
important part of this

3680
02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:31,600
that was ignored uh completely

3681
02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:33,920
we had lou elizondo go on 60 minutes and

3682
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:35,280
talk about

3683
02:20:42,830 --> 02:20:38,880
uh crazy g-forces and speeds

3684
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:42,840
and propulsion systems and we have

3685
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:46,560
uh those out there some are physicists

3686
02:20:50,950 --> 02:20:49,600
and scientists and armchair scientists

3687
02:20:53,110 --> 02:20:50,960
that are talking about you know

3688
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:53,120
potentially backwards

3689
02:20:58,550 --> 02:20:55,840
engineered alien tech that this is

3690
02:21:01,670 --> 02:20:58,560
defying all laws of physics that we

3691
02:21:04,469 --> 02:21:01,680
know of and we have dave fravor's

3692
02:21:06,550 --> 02:21:04,479
uh you know and alex t and others uh to

3693
02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:06,560
testify to this

3694
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:10,080
are we going to see that is that is

3695
02:21:13,990 --> 02:21:13,120
is that going to be a part of this two

3696
02:21:16,309 --> 02:21:14,000
week

3697
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:16,319
you know time frame of disclosing

3698
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:17,359
something

3699
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:20,560
where it's one thing to talk about

3700
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:23,600
an object it's something else when we're

3701
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:26,960
talking about going from suborbital

3702
02:21:31,349 --> 02:21:29,920
you know altitudes to sea level in a

3703
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:31,359
couple of seconds

3704
02:21:38,469 --> 02:21:35,439
uh no no wings no engine no propulsion

3705
02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:38,479
and and zipping away at 50 000 miles an

3706
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:39,359
hour

3707
02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:41,840
that that's a whole nother situation is

3708
02:21:48,550 --> 02:21:44,160
that the type of reporting

3709
02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:48,560
that they are looking for kathleen

3710
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,920
i'm sure that that's what they're

3711
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:51,280
looking for they're looking for the

3712
02:21:56,550 --> 02:21:52,640
other catch-all

3713
02:21:58,469 --> 02:21:56,560
bin that has the obvious technology

3714
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:58,479
the obvious intelligently controlled

3715
02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:59,680
technology

3716
02:22:04,150 --> 02:22:02,160
and the breakthrough technologies the

3717
02:22:06,070 --> 02:22:04,160
signature management of what they called

3718
02:22:10,070 --> 02:22:06,080
it in the uap report

3719
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:10,080
that militaristic uh advantage

3720
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:14,080
to whomever you know wields the uap

3721
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:16,720
and that technology whatever it is uh

3722
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:18,560
they're looking for those types of cases

3723
02:22:22,309 --> 02:22:19,680
absolutely

3724
02:22:23,750 --> 02:22:22,319
will we see that will the general public

3725
02:22:26,309 --> 02:22:23,760
see those cases

3726
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:26,319
and that's something else entirely going

3727
02:22:29,830 --> 02:22:27,040
back now

3728
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:29,840
two years the navy has told me and and

3729
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:30,160
uh

3730
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:32,640
the pentagon has told me on various

3731
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:34,080
occasions that they

3732
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:38,319
aim to keep uap cases and investigations

3733
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:39,840
classified that they will not

3734
02:22:46,309 --> 02:22:43,120
share it uh the navy guidelines

3735
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:46,319
that they issued back in 2019 that they

3736
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:48,240
used to

3737
02:22:52,150 --> 02:22:50,080
essentially instruct their pilots on how

3738
02:22:55,349 --> 02:22:52,160
to report uap

3739
02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:55,359
uh that that has remained classified so

3740
02:22:59,030 --> 02:22:56,720
they won't even give you the

3741
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:59,040
instructions they called it the message

3742
02:23:02,309 --> 02:23:00,560
to the fleet

3743
02:23:03,910 --> 02:23:02,319
they won't even give you a single word

3744
02:23:04,790 --> 02:23:03,920
of that message to the fleet that was

3745
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:04,800
sent out

3746
02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:07,520
because it's classified so we're not

3747
02:23:09,910 --> 02:23:09,359
dealing with disclosure here i mean not

3748
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:09,920
to

3749
02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:11,760
burst the bubble of anybody who feels

3750
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,120
that we are

3751
02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:15,359
but we're not and and that has been the

3752
02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:16,880
writing has been on the wall for many

3753
02:23:19,190 --> 02:23:17,680
years

3754
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:19,200
but when they say that something is

3755
02:23:23,590 --> 02:23:20,880
going to remain classified or a

3756
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:23,600
spokesperson tells me that

3757
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:25,600
i have two words challenge accepted

3758
02:23:28,870 --> 02:23:27,600
because spokespeople are not the

3759
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:28,880
ultimate

3760
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:31,600
decision maker on what stays classified

3761
02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:32,000
they could

3762
02:23:36,870 --> 02:23:34,560
absolutely be echoing the truth but they

3763
02:23:38,150 --> 02:23:36,880
are not the decider hence why i created

3764
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:38,160
that mdr case

3765
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:41,439
hence why i have well over 45 foia cases

3766
02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:42,880
on on material and

3767
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:44,800
and actually more mdr cases as well that

3768
02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:46,080
i didn't mention

3769
02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:48,240
but regardless of all tied to this

3770
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:51,040
report because spokespeople do not make

3771
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:52,640
those decisions

3772
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:55,680
the release authorities do the ocas do

3773
02:23:57,750 --> 02:23:56,240
and so

3774
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:57,760
that's where i'm going after this

3775
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:59,359
information but

3776
02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:01,040
going back to the the security and

3777
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:02,800
classification and will we see that

3778
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:04,399
based on kathleen hicks memo

3779
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:07,600
and this and that likely not voluntarily

3780
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:09,280
i don't think that they will go hey look

3781
02:24:13,510 --> 02:24:11,040
we just got this in from on the coast of

3782
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:13,520
california uh take a look at this

3783
02:24:17,510 --> 02:24:15,760
i don't see them doing that will it take

3784
02:24:18,309 --> 02:24:17,520
a fight absolutely will they want to

3785
02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:18,319
give it to us

3786
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:21,359
no will they be able to 100 successfully

3787
02:24:25,110 --> 02:24:24,000
keep it from us i'll let you know i'm

3788
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:25,120
not really sure

3789
02:24:28,389 --> 02:24:27,920
but i'm going to try yeah well in it and

3790
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:28,399
in

3791
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:31,600
a lot of respects this deflated

3792
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:33,920
some of the momentum you know that was

3793
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:35,040
out there with the

3794
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:37,840
uh some of uh the newer parts of the ufo

3795
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:39,520
community that were expecting

3796
02:24:46,630 --> 02:24:43,040
instant gratification and this

3797
02:24:50,230 --> 02:24:46,640
is this uh this memorandum

3798
02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:50,240
is and and this report it's a lot of

3799
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:51,520
disappointment but

3800
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:53,920
is it is it enough for people to keep

3801
02:24:57,990 --> 02:24:55,520
their foot on the gas

3802
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:58,000
and not to lose interest in the subject

3803
02:25:01,910 --> 02:24:59,760
moving forward

3804
02:25:02,950 --> 02:25:01,920
well i think if people really got the

3805
02:25:06,230 --> 02:25:02,960
the

3806
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:06,240
bit on this report

3807
02:25:10,150 --> 02:25:08,399
has to look at history and and i've said

3808
02:25:12,230 --> 02:25:10,160
it a thousand times on my channel

3809
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:12,240
in different videos history often

3810
02:25:15,910 --> 02:25:13,840
repeats itself and when you talk about

3811
02:25:18,070 --> 02:25:15,920
government secrecy and cover-ups

3812
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:18,080
they are not quick to release the lid of

3813
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,120
secrecy

3814
02:25:23,590 --> 02:25:21,600
and and lift the veil that that hovers

3815
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:23,600
over topics like ufos at least not

3816
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:24,479
willingly

3817
02:25:28,790 --> 02:25:27,680
i mean you have to really truly work to

3818
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:28,800
get

3819
02:25:35,030 --> 02:25:32,000
something admitted to and so for them

3820
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:35,040
uh if you if you are that upset just

3821
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:35,920
look that

3822
02:25:41,030 --> 02:25:39,120
this isn't a this isn't a nail in the

3823
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:41,040
coffin on moving forward i mean just

3824
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:42,800
because it isn't disclosure doesn't mean

3825
02:25:45,590 --> 02:25:43,439
it's not an

3826
02:25:48,389 --> 02:25:45,600
advancement this is one of the biggest

3827
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:48,399
steps that that particular field ufos

3828
02:25:52,230 --> 02:25:50,720
has taken in decades they're

3829
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:52,240
acknowledging the phenomena

3830
02:25:57,030 --> 02:25:55,120
it is real who cares about their their

3831
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:57,040
sugar-coated language about it being a

3832
02:26:00,550 --> 02:25:58,880
small number and this and that and they

3833
02:26:02,469 --> 02:26:00,560
throw in ice crystals and

3834
02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:02,479
it doesn't matter you got to look at

3835
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:04,160
what they've said and

3836
02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:06,800
strategically what they didn't say and

3837
02:26:10,550 --> 02:26:07,200
and

3838
02:26:12,230 --> 02:26:10,560
encouraging

3839
02:26:13,910 --> 02:26:12,240
the result of the report was this

3840
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:13,920
memorandum which is even more

3841
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:15,040
encouraging

3842
02:26:20,550 --> 02:26:18,240
and the outlook now shows that these

3843
02:26:22,389 --> 02:26:20,560
uh combatant commands and and and the

3844
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:22,399
pentagon senior leadership positions and

3845
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:23,200
so on

3846
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:25,680
all have to set forward these motions to

3847
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:27,520
start getting these reports

3848
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:29,840
will it fall flat and nobody reports

3849
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:30,640
anything

3850
02:26:34,469 --> 02:26:33,200
i highly doubt that i think that there'd

3851
02:26:36,309 --> 02:26:34,479
be a lot of red flags

3852
02:26:38,309 --> 02:26:36,319
being raised if that if that's how it

3853
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:38,319
goes and so we're going to have to let

3854
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:39,520
this play out

3855
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:42,319
but the the ball is in motion and that

3856
02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:43,920
is so encouraging

3857
02:26:47,030 --> 02:26:46,640
because keep in mind for decades they

3858
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:47,040
have

3859
02:26:55,429 --> 02:26:53,040
ufos or uaps and if you see something

3860
02:26:56,870 --> 02:26:55,439
call 911 or go to the ufo reporting

3861
02:26:59,910 --> 02:26:56,880
center or go to mufon

3862
02:27:00,710 --> 02:26:59,920
but we don't care now they've formalized

3863
02:27:02,550 --> 02:27:00,720
the process

3864
02:27:05,030 --> 02:27:02,560
because they do care and they admit that

3865
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,040
it's a problem and then that to me is

3866
02:27:08,389 --> 02:27:07,600
it is and should be encouraging to

3867
02:27:10,630 --> 02:27:08,399
everybody

3868
02:27:12,309 --> 02:27:10,640
so so yeah you may have had the steam

3869
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:12,319
let out a little bit

3870
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:14,160
and you take a deep breath because

3871
02:27:18,230 --> 02:27:16,000
you're upset you really wanted this

3872
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:18,240
to be to be disclosure disclosure but

3873
02:27:21,510 --> 02:27:19,439
just keep in mind

3874
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,520
they couldn't do that the national

3875
02:27:25,590 --> 02:27:23,600
security risk if there is some type of

3876
02:27:26,070 --> 02:27:25,600
you know alien connection to all of this

3877
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,080
and

3878
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:28,319
you know i mean i'm not convinced one

3879
02:27:31,030 --> 02:27:29,200
way or the other

3880
02:27:32,870 --> 02:27:31,040
i just want to know what the truth is

3881
02:27:34,309 --> 02:27:32,880
but if others are so convinced and that

3882
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,319
really is the reality

3883
02:27:37,349 --> 02:27:36,399
the national security implications in my

3884
02:27:40,150 --> 02:27:37,359
mind would far

3885
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:40,160
outweigh giving the public the truth and

3886
02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:41,600
so they're going to lie about it so you

3887
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:42,319
have to take

3888
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:44,640
all of that into account when we look at

3889
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:46,160
information like this

3890
02:27:50,630 --> 02:27:48,479
look at the positives and take a step

3891
02:27:52,070 --> 02:27:50,640
forward because again i use that puzzle

3892
02:27:54,469 --> 02:27:52,080
analogy in a chess

3893
02:27:56,389 --> 02:27:54,479
match it all to me plays a role in this

3894
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:56,399
that we need as many pieces on the board

3895
02:28:02,070 --> 02:27:57,359
as we can

3896
02:28:04,070 --> 02:28:02,080
get to make the picture and win the game

3897
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,080
and we were not going to just have an

3898
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:06,160
automatic checkmate once they gave this

3899
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:07,040
report

3900
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:10,000
that was silly for anybody to think that

3901
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:13,040
but let it be a learning uh you know

3902
02:28:17,750 --> 02:28:16,160
uh something that we can learn from and

3903
02:28:20,389 --> 02:28:17,760
and move on and and

3904
02:28:22,309 --> 02:28:20,399
set our expectations appropriately but

3905
02:28:24,389 --> 02:28:22,319
continue to fight for answers and

3906
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,399
continue to ask those questions

3907
02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:26,960
that remain unanswered and to go after

3908
02:28:31,030 --> 02:28:28,880
information whether it be legally

3909
02:28:32,309 --> 02:28:31,040
whether it be you call your congressman

3910
02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:32,319
you know you you do a

3911
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,200
a a faxing campaign i think stephen

3912
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:36,960
bassett did that many years ago

3913
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:39,680
whatever the effort is we have to remain

3914
02:28:42,790 --> 02:28:41,359
motivated because look what happened in

3915
02:28:44,710 --> 02:28:42,800
the last couple of years

3916
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:44,720
you know people started paying attention

3917
02:28:48,550 --> 02:28:46,319
asking questions pushing

3918
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:48,560
pushing pushing word got to the senate

3919
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:50,080
intel committee all of a sudden we're

3920
02:28:52,550 --> 02:28:50,800
asking

3921
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:52,560
for a uap report in the name of the

3922
02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:54,880
people saying you got to be transparent

3923
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:56,080
let's see it public

3924
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:58,640
and it actually happened so we have to

3925
02:29:01,030 --> 02:29:00,080
look at that as a little bit of

3926
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:01,040
encouragement

3927
02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:03,520
and moving forward set our expectations

3928
02:29:06,070 --> 02:29:04,319
but remain

3929
02:29:07,870 --> 02:29:06,080
motivated to get to the truth well you

3930
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:07,880
know that's a well thought out

3931
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:11,600
intelligent mindset right there that

3932
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:12,880
statement

3933
02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:16,720
and then you have neil degrasse tyson

3934
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:20,240
doing his his tweet blast on this

3935
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,680
where his view is

3936
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:25,920
is isn't anywhere close to what you just

3937
02:29:29,990 --> 02:29:27,200
stated or my

3938
02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:30,000
you know it it's the lens that he's

3939
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:31,520
looking through

3940
02:29:35,429 --> 02:29:33,760
and i i just don't get it john where

3941
02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:35,439
they are reading

3942
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:37,120
what they only want to read in the

3943
02:29:42,950 --> 02:29:39,280
report but then they turn around

3944
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:42,960
and state it to as an influencer he's

3945
02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:45,359
got 14 million twitter followers

3946
02:29:50,309 --> 02:29:48,160
yeah right that hang on his every word

3947
02:29:53,590 --> 02:29:50,319
and that's the part that i don't get and

3948
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:53,600
is that part of the the disinfo campaign

3949
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:57,120
back to the five segments right

3950
02:30:01,429 --> 02:30:00,640
people are going to support their view

3951
02:30:06,389 --> 02:30:01,439
with this

3952
02:30:07,990 --> 02:30:06,399
it's challenging to see people like neil

3953
02:30:09,830 --> 02:30:08,000
degrasse tyson and i don't want to speak

3954
02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:09,840
bad about him i really like him i worked

3955
02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:12,000
with him i did a television series with

3956
02:30:13,910 --> 02:30:12,399
him

3957
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:13,920
he's a lot of fun he's incredibly

3958
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:16,240
intelligent but one of his recent tweets

3959
02:30:19,349 --> 02:30:17,120
i had to

3960
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:19,359
comment on it and he was talking about

3961
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:20,880
how egocentric

3962
02:30:25,270 --> 02:30:23,520
you know humanity is to think that space

3963
02:30:29,110 --> 02:30:25,280
aliens would care about us

3964
02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:29,120
and so ergo you know ufos aren't aliens

3965
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:31,120
like he's making this big leap

3966
02:30:35,429 --> 02:30:33,120
like somehow he was making a point and

3967
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:35,439
my response was was simply this

3968
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:37,840
you know it's it's like humanity going

3969
02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:39,520
out into the middle of the sahara desert

3970
02:30:42,469 --> 02:30:40,880
and planting a flag

3971
02:30:44,710 --> 02:30:42,479
and trying to communicate with an ant

3972
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:44,720
hill right that's not going to happen

3973
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:46,399
but that doesn't take away from the

3974
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:48,880
reality that there is a very small

3975
02:30:52,389 --> 02:30:50,399
percentage of humans

3976
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:52,399
earthlings here on planet earth that

3977
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:53,840
have dedicated their life to

3978
02:30:58,389 --> 02:30:55,920
understanding that ant hill

3979
02:30:59,990 --> 02:30:58,399
understanding the mating habits of ants

3980
02:31:02,150 --> 02:31:00,000
understanding how they eat where they

3981
02:31:03,990 --> 02:31:02,160
live how they build their their homes

3982
02:31:06,870 --> 02:31:04,000
where they migrate to who do they war

3983
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:06,880
with because that in the name of science

3984
02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:08,080
is what they want to

3985
02:31:11,510 --> 02:31:10,880
understand so as a scientist and i am

3986
02:31:13,270 --> 02:31:11,520
not one

3987
02:31:15,110 --> 02:31:13,280
but as a scientist you have to deal with

3988
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:15,120
all possibilities until you can't

3989
02:31:18,309 --> 02:31:16,000
anymore

3990
02:31:20,469 --> 02:31:18,319
and you have to look at every aspect of

3991
02:31:23,190 --> 02:31:20,479
possibility no matter how far-fetched

3992
02:31:24,790 --> 02:31:23,200
until you can't anymore and scientists

3993
02:31:26,790 --> 02:31:24,800
like dr tyson who again

3994
02:31:28,070 --> 02:31:26,800
i have a lot of respect for but in this

3995
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:28,080
particular realm

3996
02:31:31,510 --> 02:31:30,960
i think he is stretching and i think he

3997
02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:31,520
is

3998
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:36,640
he just wants to be snarky

3999
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:38,560
and he is funny trust me we shared many

4000
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:39,760
laughs behind the scenes when i was

4001
02:31:43,030 --> 02:31:40,640
shooting with him

4002
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:43,040
uh he's a funny guy but i think at the

4003
02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:45,040
expense of his scientific

4004
02:31:48,630 --> 02:31:47,439
mindset he's trying to be snarky and

4005
02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:48,640
he's losing

4006
02:31:54,309 --> 02:31:52,319
to all of this

4007
02:31:55,990 --> 02:31:54,319
with the way he's approaching it and it

4008
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:56,000
is a shame yeah i would

4009
02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:01,750
with all of the events that have

4010
02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:04,479
happened in the last three or four years

4011
02:32:08,950 --> 02:32:07,920
that carl sagan would be losing his mind

4012
02:32:11,349 --> 02:32:08,960
right now

4013
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:11,359
he would want the investigation he would

4014
02:32:15,110 --> 02:32:13,600
want the questions he would want to look

4015
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:15,120
out he would want to do

4016
02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:16,960
he would want to participate in the

4017
02:32:23,750 --> 02:32:20,399
discussion he would not close the door

4018
02:32:26,230 --> 02:32:23,760
like neil degrasse tyson has that's

4019
02:32:27,910 --> 02:32:26,240
that's the difference to me

4020
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:27,920
ironically the show i was shooting with

4021
02:32:32,230 --> 02:32:29,520
dr tyson was the

4022
02:32:34,230 --> 02:32:32,240
behind the scenes of cosmos so neil so

4023
02:32:35,510 --> 02:32:34,240
dr tyso i was working for fox home

4024
02:32:37,510 --> 02:32:35,520
entertainment at the time

4025
02:32:39,030 --> 02:32:37,520
and i was directing and writing the

4026
02:32:40,389 --> 02:32:39,040
behind the scenes and we were talking a

4027
02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:40,399
lot about carl sagan

4028
02:32:43,750 --> 02:32:42,160
and you're absolutely right i believe

4029
02:32:45,830 --> 02:32:43,760
you're absolutely spot on

4030
02:32:47,670 --> 02:32:45,840
that i believe that if sagan was around

4031
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:47,680
at this point

4032
02:32:51,190 --> 02:32:49,680
is the likelihood that aliens are here

4033
02:32:52,150 --> 02:32:51,200
is that the most likely scenario of

4034
02:32:54,550 --> 02:32:52,160
course not

4035
02:32:57,190 --> 02:32:54,560
but we can't rule it out there's no

4036
02:33:00,550 --> 02:32:57,200
definitive proof in my mind

4037
02:33:01,990 --> 02:33:00,560
that says this is not alien and you look

4038
02:33:02,790 --> 02:33:02,000
at the evidence and you look at the

4039
02:33:05,429 --> 02:33:02,800
potential

4040
02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:05,439
categories and the uaptf did just that

4041
02:33:07,429 --> 02:33:06,479
where they have the five different

4042
02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:07,439
categories

4043
02:33:11,349 --> 02:33:09,439
you look at all of that aliens are not

4044
02:33:13,510 --> 02:33:11,359
off the table i'm sorry they're just not

4045
02:33:14,950 --> 02:33:13,520
i'm not convinced that it's that that's

4046
02:33:17,270 --> 02:33:14,960
what this all is

4047
02:33:18,950 --> 02:33:17,280
but it you can't rule it out and that's

4048
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:18,960
what's fascinating about this topic

4049
02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:20,080
because you have enough

4050
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:23,439
evidence to show that this phenomena

4051
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:26,720
is in some instances decades above

4052
02:33:30,790 --> 02:33:28,800
known human technology i just posted a

4053
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:30,800
document from the late 1940s

4054
02:33:34,950 --> 02:33:33,040
that showed just that that as long as it

4055
02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:34,960
wasn't some fabricated dream that the

4056
02:33:38,389 --> 02:33:36,319
fbi agent

4057
02:33:39,429 --> 02:33:38,399
in san antonio decided to write to j

4058
02:33:41,349 --> 02:33:39,439
edgar hoover

4059
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:41,359
about uh technology that they were

4060
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:42,800
seeing and documenting

4061
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:45,920
uh in in in fbi files as long as that

4062
02:33:49,670 --> 02:33:47,040
all wasn't just a big

4063
02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:49,680
fabricated nothing any and he wasted

4064
02:33:52,389 --> 02:33:50,720
hoover's time

4065
02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:52,399
you're talking about technology that has

4066
02:33:57,750 --> 02:33:54,560
been documented for decades and decades

4067
02:34:00,630 --> 02:33:57,760
and on top of that far surpasses

4068
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:00,640
known human tech and even from the late

4069
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:02,160
1940s to now

4070
02:34:07,190 --> 02:34:05,280
in 2021 you cannot go back and go hey

4071
02:34:08,150 --> 02:34:07,200
well in 1949 they didn't realize what

4072
02:34:10,309 --> 02:34:08,160
they were looking at

4073
02:34:12,550 --> 02:34:10,319
but here in 2021 we know that that was

4074
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:12,560
the you know xyz whatever

4075
02:34:16,309 --> 02:34:14,800
aircraft technology we want to blame it

4076
02:34:19,510 --> 02:34:16,319
on yet we can't

4077
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:19,520
we can't identify all of those cases and

4078
02:34:22,790 --> 02:34:21,200
those are not from joe schmo in the

4079
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:22,800
middle of kansas uh

4080
02:34:26,309 --> 02:34:24,640
because he he tweeted it out that he had

4081
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:26,319
some citing these are official

4082
02:34:31,349 --> 02:34:28,720
government intelligence reports from

4083
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:31,359
military officers police officers people

4084
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:32,880
of high reputation that the u.s

4085
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:34,240
government and military

4086
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:35,920
has gone on the record behind the scenes

4087
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:38,720
and says we have no idea what this is

4088
02:34:42,469 --> 02:34:41,760
and that from a scientific standpoint to

4089
02:34:44,950 --> 02:34:42,479
a scientist

4090
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:44,960
like neil degrasse tyson and beyond

4091
02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:45,920
should never

4092
02:34:51,670 --> 02:34:49,280
ever ever discount that just because

4093
02:34:52,469 --> 02:34:51,680
it's not the most logical answer isn't

4094
02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:52,479
that what they

4095
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:54,560
upset me about what he said exactly

4096
02:34:57,990 --> 02:34:56,960
isn't that that's exactly what they

4097
02:35:01,510 --> 02:34:58,000
would want to

4098
02:35:03,830 --> 02:35:01,520
go and look into right you don't have to

4099
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:03,840
say i mean you would think but they

4100
02:35:06,710 --> 02:35:04,800
don't

4101
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:06,720
and and so then the question begs do you

4102
02:35:10,830 --> 02:35:08,800
want an astronomer or somebody like that

4103
02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:10,840
to be looking at potential

4104
02:35:14,070 --> 02:35:12,880
astrobiological life forms because

4105
02:35:15,349 --> 02:35:14,080
there's a huge difference in those

4106
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:15,359
scientific realms

4107
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:17,120
and we have to understand that as well

4108
02:35:20,630 --> 02:35:19,120
he he is an incredibly intelligent guy

4109
02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:20,640
i'll say it a thousand times

4110
02:35:24,150 --> 02:35:22,319
however he's an incredibly intelligent

4111
02:35:26,710 --> 02:35:24,160
guy about the uh

4112
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:26,720
stuff that he studied you know but but

4113
02:35:29,190 --> 02:35:28,560
there there is a point where you get

4114
02:35:30,950 --> 02:35:29,200
into

4115
02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:30,960
fields of study in in realms where

4116
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:32,720
you're not an expert anymore

4117
02:35:36,469 --> 02:35:35,040
you know i can't rebuild a car engine

4118
02:35:38,150 --> 02:35:36,479
but my dad can

4119
02:35:39,670 --> 02:35:38,160
you know and you look at what you're

4120
02:35:39,990 --> 02:35:39,680
you're good at and what you've set your

4121
02:35:42,550 --> 02:35:40,000
mind

4122
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:42,560
to and what you're an expert at and i

4123
02:35:45,750 --> 02:35:43,120
know

4124
02:35:47,349 --> 02:35:45,760
what i'm not an expert at and when when

4125
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:47,359
we look at someone like neil degrasse

4126
02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:49,200
tyson and his scientific background and

4127
02:35:52,710 --> 02:35:50,720
yes he's well versed

4128
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:52,720
is he the type of guy that should be

4129
02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:55,200
creating such definitive statements

4130
02:36:00,150 --> 02:35:58,880
about you ufos uaps and what witnesses

4131
02:36:02,790 --> 02:36:00,160
like alex dietrich

4132
02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:02,800
and david fravor and whomever are

4133
02:36:06,790 --> 02:36:04,080
actually seeing

4134
02:36:08,070 --> 02:36:06,800
that is not his field of expertise now

4135
02:36:10,150 --> 02:36:08,080
if he sat down and said

4136
02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:10,160
look for the last 25 years i've looked

4137
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:12,160
at 12 000 ufo cases

4138
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:13,600
and this is what i've come up with that

4139
02:36:17,429 --> 02:36:15,760
there's nothing there sure we can have

4140
02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:17,439
that conversation and i'd be happy to

4141
02:36:20,550 --> 02:36:18,720
debate the man

4142
02:36:22,389 --> 02:36:20,560
when it came to something like that but

4143
02:36:23,670 --> 02:36:22,399
the reality is he sits in front of a

4144
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,680
television camera

4145
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:26,080
and you know sees a video this or maybe

4146
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:27,680
googles something and sees the news

4147
02:36:30,389 --> 02:36:28,240
thing

4148
02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:30,399
laughs at it and creates a snarky tweet

4149
02:36:33,670 --> 02:36:32,080
and then all of a sudden like 12

4150
02:36:35,990 --> 02:36:33,680
network broadcasts want to put them on

4151
02:36:37,670 --> 02:36:36,000
tv because aha tyson tyson tweeted

4152
02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:37,680
about the navy video let's get him on

4153
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,200
what made him what made him

4154
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:41,600
the the guy that you should talk to and

4155
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:43,040
and the answer is nothing

4156
02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:45,280
he's brilliant on camera he's great from

4157
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:47,280
a producer standpoint he's gold

4158
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:49,040
there's a reason why he's on tv all the

4159
02:36:53,270 --> 02:36:50,399
time okay he's good at it

4160
02:36:55,270 --> 02:36:53,280
i'll say that he just is but when it

4161
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:55,280
comes to the actual content of what

4162
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:56,319
you're saying

4163
02:37:01,750 --> 02:37:00,240
it you gotta be truthful

4164
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:01,760
and for me i don't think it's not that

4165
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:03,600
he's being untruthful

4166
02:37:06,870 --> 02:37:05,680
he's just not looking at the reality on

4167
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:06,880
how a scientist

4168
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:09,359
should look at the evidence and there's

4169
02:37:13,270 --> 02:37:11,439
too much evidence at this point

4170
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,280
in addition to witness testimony say

4171
02:37:16,230 --> 02:37:15,120
humans make mistakes all the time and

4172
02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:16,240
they're not reliable

4173
02:37:20,230 --> 02:37:18,479
that's fine but you look at military

4174
02:37:21,910 --> 02:37:20,240
sensors and and technology that are

4175
02:37:23,270 --> 02:37:21,920
picking this up visual imagery that

4176
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:23,280
can't be explained

4177
02:37:26,790 --> 02:37:25,359
you look at all of that into a scientist

4178
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:26,800
they're going to have some snarky tweet

4179
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:27,760
and all of a sudden

4180
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:30,319
case closed no way man there's some

4181
02:37:34,230 --> 02:37:32,080
there's something wrong with that

4182
02:37:35,750 --> 02:37:34,240
and that's why i had to to tweet at him

4183
02:37:37,510 --> 02:37:35,760
just to say hey look

4184
02:37:38,870 --> 02:37:37,520
you're approaching this the wrong way

4185
02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:38,880
you know and and and

4186
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,479
to a scientist to the scientific

4187
02:37:43,429 --> 02:37:42,160
community because i don't want to just

4188
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:43,439
pick on him

4189
02:37:47,030 --> 02:37:45,840
i hope they see the magnitude of what we

4190
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:47,040
are dealing with

4191
02:37:51,190 --> 02:37:49,760
you don't have to jump to aliens but

4192
02:37:53,110 --> 02:37:51,200
don't take it off the table

4193
02:37:54,230 --> 02:37:53,120
simply because you don't have the right

4194
02:37:56,710 --> 02:37:54,240
evidence to do it

4195
02:37:57,910 --> 02:37:56,720
yet if you find that evidence to take

4196
02:38:00,710 --> 02:37:57,920
aliens off the table

4197
02:38:02,790 --> 02:38:00,720
i'm all ears but until then if they're

4198
02:38:04,389 --> 02:38:02,800
definitively saying that

4199
02:38:06,230 --> 02:38:04,399
they're not interested in science

4200
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,240
they're interested in a snarky tweet

4201
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:08,080
that'll get 30 million retweets and

4202
02:38:12,950 --> 02:38:10,319
likes and hahas and emojis

4203
02:38:13,830 --> 02:38:12,960
and that is not science no and he took

4204
02:38:16,150 --> 02:38:13,840
uh

4205
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:16,160
in in such a generalized statement he's

4206
02:38:21,349 --> 02:38:18,640
taken a crack at alex dietrich

4207
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:21,359
right he's calling her crazy and her

4208
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:22,640
reply

4209
02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:26,000
uh to his tweet was epic yes

4210
02:38:31,030 --> 02:38:28,880
it was epic and and this and i'm just

4211
02:38:34,070 --> 02:38:31,040
gonna i'm gonna say it i'm gonna say it

4212
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:34,080
right now part of the danger

4213
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:37,200
of of ego and fame uh

4214
02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:41,040
with uh the rock star physicist out

4215
02:38:47,030 --> 02:38:43,359
there and specifically

4216
02:38:52,070 --> 02:38:47,040
neil degrasse tyson is that he

4217
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:52,080
wants to say that he is smarter than you

4218
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:54,160
and that he is always the smartest

4219
02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:55,520
person in the room

4220
02:38:58,950 --> 02:38:58,319
and there's nothing that you can say

4221
02:39:02,469 --> 02:38:58,960
that

4222
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:02,479
can compete with his knowledge

4223
02:39:08,469 --> 02:39:05,600
so therefore my statement is at the top

4224
02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:08,479
and your voice doesn't matter alex

4225
02:39:12,550 --> 02:39:09,120
dietrich

4226
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:12,560
for example right and and his followers

4227
02:39:17,349 --> 02:39:13,600
and his legions

4228
02:39:21,429 --> 02:39:17,359
of fans feel that way

4229
02:39:24,230 --> 02:39:21,439
that when he speaks he is the smartest

4230
02:39:26,150 --> 02:39:24,240
and and it stops right there and that's

4231
02:39:28,550 --> 02:39:26,160
the danger zone that we go into

4232
02:39:30,070 --> 02:39:28,560
with the rock star physicist and and

4233
02:39:31,750 --> 02:39:30,080
those out there that have been put on

4234
02:39:33,030 --> 02:39:31,760
this pedestal because they start to

4235
02:39:35,190 --> 02:39:33,040
believe that

4236
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:35,200
and that's that's that's the day he he

4237
02:39:40,070 --> 02:39:36,800
wields a lot of power

4238
02:39:41,349 --> 02:39:40,080
john he does yeah and and and again i

4239
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:41,359
don't want to just pick on him but i

4240
02:39:44,469 --> 02:39:42,319
would say that people

4241
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:44,479
in that position know that they wield

4242
02:39:48,070 --> 02:39:45,840
that power

4243
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:48,080
and and i do believe that there is a

4244
02:39:53,510 --> 02:39:50,640
point when you get into

4245
02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:53,520
certain educated minds being on

4246
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:54,800
television

4247
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:58,080
and and have having to make

4248
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:00,880
what are very sometimes very boring

4249
02:40:05,910 --> 02:40:02,960
scientific theories and

4250
02:40:07,349 --> 02:40:05,920
and fact interesting they become

4251
02:40:09,270 --> 02:40:07,359
entertainers

4252
02:40:11,750 --> 02:40:09,280
and we have to consider the fact that

4253
02:40:14,230 --> 02:40:11,760
there is a point that they shift

4254
02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:14,240
from being a scientist to being an

4255
02:40:17,990 --> 02:40:15,520
entertainer

4256
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:18,000
and it is more valuable to them to do

4257
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:19,600
the snarky tweets and to get on

4258
02:40:23,510 --> 02:40:20,560
television

4259
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:23,520
and make a very intelligently worded

4260
02:40:27,269 --> 02:40:25,120
joke about it all

4261
02:40:29,030 --> 02:40:27,279
because it will resonate with the people

4262
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:29,040
and that's what they care about

4263
02:40:33,590 --> 02:40:31,840
more than science and that is what is

4264
02:40:36,150 --> 02:40:33,600
damaging to this field

4265
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:36,160
because then other scientists that maybe

4266
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:37,120
are not the

4267
02:40:41,030 --> 02:40:38,640
entertainers they're not the ones

4268
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:41,040
hosting the tv shows and the ones being

4269
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:41,600
on tv

4270
02:40:45,429 --> 02:40:43,840
all the time but they take a step back

4271
02:40:46,150 --> 02:40:45,439
and go i don't want to take on neil

4272
02:40:47,990 --> 02:40:46,160
tyson

4273
02:40:49,269 --> 02:40:48,000
i don't want to take on seth shawstak i

4274
02:40:50,389 --> 02:40:49,279
don't want to take on you know whomever

4275
02:40:52,469 --> 02:40:50,399
it might be

4276
02:40:53,990 --> 02:40:52,479
simply because they don't want that

4277
02:40:54,790 --> 02:40:54,000
they're scientists they want to pursue

4278
02:40:56,469 --> 02:40:54,800
the truth

4279
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:56,479
so they remain in the shadows and they

4280
02:40:59,269 --> 02:40:58,000
don't say anything while the

4281
02:41:00,790 --> 02:40:59,279
entertainers

4282
02:41:02,870 --> 02:41:00,800
are the ones that are in the forefront

4283
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:02,880
of this effort to say ah

4284
02:41:05,910 --> 02:41:04,000
yeah they don't know what they're

4285
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:05,920
talking about oh space aliens are gonna

4286
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:07,200
care about humans

4287
02:41:11,190 --> 02:41:09,359
no way well you know what to a point i

4288
02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:11,200
actually agree with that sentiment

4289
02:41:15,590 --> 02:41:13,200
but you can't discount the fact that

4290
02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:15,600
there is again that small percentage

4291
02:41:19,110 --> 02:41:17,920
of humans that care about very minuscule

4292
02:41:21,269 --> 02:41:19,120
and tiny things

4293
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:21,279
that not everybody cares about and the

4294
02:41:25,910 --> 02:41:22,640
same would be true on a

4295
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:25,920
grander cosmic scale so just because it

4296
02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:26,479
sounds

4297
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:28,960
good doesn't mean you need to say it

4298
02:41:33,429 --> 02:41:30,880
because it doesn't make it true

4299
02:41:35,110 --> 02:41:33,439
and that i think is one of the biggest

4300
02:41:36,710 --> 02:41:35,120
hindrances when you talk about the

4301
02:41:39,030 --> 02:41:36,720
scientific community

4302
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:39,040
and their lack of their largely lack of

4303
02:41:43,830 --> 02:41:41,840
interest to get into the ufo phenomena

4304
02:41:45,269 --> 02:41:43,840
because you have and a lot of people

4305
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:45,279
refer to it as stigma

4306
02:41:49,830 --> 02:41:46,880
but you also have some of the other

4307
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:49,840
entertainers that poo poo the whole idea

4308
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:52,640
because it sounds good on television

4309
02:41:57,269 --> 02:41:54,080
thank you so much john

4310
02:41:57,990 --> 02:41:57,279
thank you so much we've got a lot of

4311
02:42:01,110 --> 02:41:58,000
exciting things

4312
02:42:03,030 --> 02:42:01,120
that are happening right now and uh

4313
02:42:04,309 --> 02:42:03,040
these conversations with you are some of

4314
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:04,319
the best that uh

4315
02:42:07,750 --> 02:42:06,880
i'm able to do on this program but what

4316
02:42:10,950 --> 02:42:07,760
a great week

4317
02:42:12,550 --> 02:42:10,960
it has been so much fun and i don't even

4318
02:42:14,070 --> 02:42:12,560
know what's going to happen tomorrow

4319
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:14,080
but you're going to be a part of it

4320
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:15,840
thank you so much john and uh

4321
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:19,520
what's next when do you do the live show

4322
02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:21,680
uh so it's random just because i got two

4323
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:23,600
kids and a crazy schedule so it's a

4324
02:42:25,990 --> 02:42:25,520
little bit random but i'll tweet it out

4325
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:26,000
when i do

4326
02:42:30,070 --> 02:42:28,160
the live streams i post videos too all

4327
02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:30,080
the time i posted a couple today

4328
02:42:33,110 --> 02:42:31,760
some are five minutes long some are

4329
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:33,120
three hours long

4330
02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:34,960
you know so it's just a lot of fun for

4331
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:36,800
me so sadly no set schedule

4332
02:42:41,990 --> 02:42:40,319
but if you go to theblackvault.com live

4333
02:42:43,830 --> 02:42:42,000
that will bounce you to the youtube

4334
02:42:46,070 --> 02:42:43,840
channel just subscribe there

4335
02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:46,080
and and that that'll notify you whenever

4336
02:42:48,389 --> 02:42:47,680
i do post the videos or do the live

4337
02:42:50,870 --> 02:42:48,399
streams

4338
02:42:52,309 --> 02:42:50,880
thank you so much man uh and and for you

4339
02:42:54,950 --> 02:42:52,319
taking the time

4340
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,960
out of a crazy schedule this past week

4341
02:42:59,349 --> 02:42:56,479
to come on monday

4342
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:59,359
uh today and do this uh was just awesome

4343
02:43:02,389 --> 02:43:00,479
thank you so much john

4344
02:43:03,590 --> 02:43:02,399
enjoy the rest of your time i appreciate

4345
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:03,600
it stop it

4346
02:43:07,510 --> 02:43:05,359
enjoy the rest of your night man give my

4347
02:43:08,389 --> 02:43:07,520
best to the family i will you as well

4348
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:08,399
thank you

4349
02:43:13,110 --> 02:43:11,200
john greenwald now i am going to i blew

4350
02:43:15,030 --> 02:43:13,120
through a commercial break for john

4351
02:43:16,550 --> 02:43:15,040
so now i do have to go and pay the bills

4352
02:43:17,750 --> 02:43:16,560
thank you so much john and have a great

4353
02:43:20,070 --> 02:43:17,760
night

4354
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:20,080
john greenwald follow john right there

4355
02:43:21,990 --> 02:43:21,439
on twitter all of the updates and when

4356
02:43:25,269 --> 02:43:22,000
he does go

4357
02:43:27,190 --> 02:43:25,279
live is right there at blackvultcom on

4358
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:27,200
twitter i'm going to take a quick break

4359
02:43:30,120 --> 02:43:28,880
i'll come back and i'll pop a couple of

4360
02:43:32,910 --> 02:43:30,130
phone calls

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4438
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4439
02:47:33,269 --> 02:47:30,160
greenwald

4440
02:47:33,870 --> 02:47:33,279
that was that was a great analysis of

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4444
02:47:44,950 --> 02:47:41,439
and i think that uh that memorandum

4445
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:44,960
is uh is chilling in its directness

4446
02:47:51,360 --> 02:47:48,640
by the way and uh let's see here they

4447
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:51,370
okay all right uh

4448
02:47:56,630 --> 02:47:53,439
[Applause]

4449
02:47:59,590 --> 02:47:56,640
now i'm hanging out in the youtube chat

4450
02:48:00,389 --> 02:47:59,600
i'll chop chop i'll chop chop come on

4451
02:48:03,030 --> 02:48:00,399
come on some

4452
02:48:03,670 --> 02:48:03,040
somebody somebody wants to be chop

4453
02:48:07,349 --> 02:48:03,680
chopped

4454
02:48:11,269 --> 02:48:07,359
i'll do it i'm just letting you know now

4455
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:11,279
and uh anyway uh

4456
02:48:16,070 --> 02:48:14,080
it's a great analysis i had to go back

4457
02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:16,080
and i had said

4458
02:48:20,309 --> 02:48:17,600
i'm going to need a few days i got to

4459
02:48:23,110 --> 02:48:20,319
read through this a few more times

4460
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:23,120
and and i did and the more that the

4461
02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:25,040
first the first read-through i was like

4462
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:25,840
come on

4463
02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,279
man seriously and uh

4464
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:31,600
and i understand the disappointment i i

4465
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:33,120
i think that

4466
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:37,279
uh most wanted uh something to just

4467
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:40,240
uh you know just some amazing disco you

4468
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:40,960
know

4469
02:48:48,710 --> 02:48:44,880
and and and maybe not direct

4470
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:48,720
maybe not direct but something that

4471
02:48:53,429 --> 02:48:51,680
everybody could go aha see and that

4472
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:53,439
didn't happen

4473
02:48:58,389 --> 02:48:55,600
not directly you need to read through

4474
02:49:01,429 --> 02:48:58,399
that and i did i read it i read it again

4475
02:49:04,710 --> 02:49:01,439
i read it again and i came away

4476
02:49:06,950 --> 02:49:04,720
feeling much different uh than i did on

4477
02:49:09,510 --> 02:49:06,960
the first read-through

4478
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:09,520
okay and i should read some of the

4479
02:49:16,230 --> 02:49:12,319
emails that i got from you guys uh

4480
02:49:19,030 --> 02:49:16,240
about it yes it was it was disappointing

4481
02:49:20,389 --> 02:49:19,040
so we're gonna continue the analysis all

4482
02:49:25,670 --> 02:49:20,399
week on the show

4483
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:27,590
i've 747-228-2051 got so much time left

4484
02:49:31,910 --> 02:49:28,960
in the show

4485
02:49:33,269 --> 02:49:31,920
and uh let's see who we have up first hi

4486
02:49:34,790 --> 02:49:33,279
you're live on fade to block who's

4487
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:34,800
calling

4488
02:49:38,830 --> 02:49:37,200
hey jimmy it's eric the awakening man uh

4489
02:49:41,349 --> 02:49:38,840
how are you

4490
02:49:44,309 --> 02:49:41,359
eric i'm exhausted

4491
02:49:45,510 --> 02:49:44,319
literally exhausted why why why are you

4492
02:49:48,630 --> 02:49:45,520
exhausted well i

4493
02:49:49,269 --> 02:49:48,640
i spent uh literally no exaggeration

4494
02:49:52,550 --> 02:49:49,279
probably

4495
02:49:53,750 --> 02:49:52,560
30 hours driving on forest roads last

4496
02:49:54,870 --> 02:49:53,760
week

4497
02:49:56,950 --> 02:49:54,880
you probably noticed some of the

4498
02:50:00,950 --> 02:49:56,960
pictures i was posting i was looking

4499
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:00,960
everywhere for any sign of bigfoot and

4500
02:50:04,389 --> 02:50:02,960
uh ufos i mean i could talk to you for

4501
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:04,399
hours and hours about that

4502
02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:06,800
that might be another time but but lots

4503
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:08,880
of positive information that

4504
02:50:13,670 --> 02:50:11,920
came out of this last trip 30 hours

4505
02:50:17,349 --> 02:50:13,680
that's a lot of driving did you get a

4506
02:50:20,630 --> 02:50:17,359
chance to read the uaptf report

4507
02:50:22,550 --> 02:50:20,640
no but i'm uh i think john greenwald is

4508
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:22,560
in my opinion he's the best i mean what

4509
02:50:25,269 --> 02:50:24,640
he does i would like to take that guy if

4510
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:25,279
you can make

4511
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,600
you and john greenwald well not so much

4512
02:50:31,429 --> 02:50:29,520
you i know you already believe but

4513
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:31,439
i like to take him for a week on some of

4514
02:50:36,070 --> 02:50:33,760
my adventures and it might kind of

4515
02:50:37,670 --> 02:50:36,080
turn his thinking in a little more of a

4516
02:50:40,070 --> 02:50:37,680
direction towards

4517
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:40,080
i mean come on ufos are real aliens are

4518
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:40,880
real

4519
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:44,000
i mean jesus i mean kehoe

4520
02:50:47,990 --> 02:50:46,000
just people just need to go read donald

4521
02:50:50,870 --> 02:50:48,000
kehoe jim you know you got that book

4522
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:50,880
i do from 1950 i mean if people just

4523
02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:51,359
start

4524
02:50:55,910 --> 02:50:54,160
there and then just look at the history

4525
02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:55,920
and how it all has unfolded over the

4526
02:50:58,550 --> 02:50:56,880
years

4527
02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:58,560
and we had our little we had a little

4528
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:01,120
glimpse of possibility here recently and

4529
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:02,800
i know it's not over i mean we're going

4530
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:04,479
to all keep trying

4531
02:51:08,469 --> 02:51:06,800
um those guys out there trying but the

4532
02:51:08,950 --> 02:51:08,479
bottom line is they're always gonna spin

4533
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:08,960
it

4534
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:12,000
that's okay you know they're gonna spin

4535
02:51:15,429 --> 02:51:13,760
it i feel sorry for the newbies though

4536
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:15,439
the ones that are like kind of new on

4537
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:17,040
the scene that got their youtube

4538
02:51:20,230 --> 02:51:18,160
channels and

4539
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:20,240
and they're all excited which is great

4540
02:51:23,990 --> 02:51:22,000
but but they they can't they got to

4541
02:51:25,750 --> 02:51:24,000
realize you can't like you said you

4542
02:51:26,550 --> 02:51:25,760
can't get emotionally attached to this

4543
02:51:28,070 --> 02:51:26,560
stuff it's

4544
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:28,080
you just have to decide for yourself

4545
02:51:31,830 --> 02:51:29,840
what you believe what you might

4546
02:51:32,469 --> 02:51:31,840
experience is real or not real and and

4547
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:32,479
that's

4548
02:51:37,750 --> 02:51:35,680
you know anyway i'm just it's

4549
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:37,760
it's it's a game you've said it before

4550
02:51:41,590 --> 02:51:39,520
it's a game but it's a beautiful game

4551
02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:41,600
though i love ufology

4552
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:46,800
i love it the uh the report itself

4553
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:50,080
um the

4554
02:52:00,550 --> 02:51:57,510
the emotional the temperature

4555
02:52:03,590 --> 02:52:00,560
in the room right uh

4556
02:52:06,469 --> 02:52:03,600
going back uh six months when this

4557
02:52:08,630 --> 02:52:06,479
started to get out there into the public

4558
02:52:13,269 --> 02:52:08,640
and that this was in the uh

4559
02:52:14,870 --> 02:52:13,279
the intelligence budget uh for 2021

4560
02:52:16,790 --> 02:52:14,880
and this had to be there and there was

4561
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:16,800
going to be this report delivered and it

4562
02:52:21,990 --> 02:52:18,880
was delivered on time

4563
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:22,000
the temperature in the room uh this last

4564
02:52:26,230 --> 02:52:22,800
few weeks

4565
02:52:29,590 --> 02:52:26,240
leading up to uh the day

4566
02:52:33,030 --> 02:52:29,600
it was insane and

4567
02:52:34,790 --> 02:52:33,040
i know i know i i don't read everything

4568
02:52:36,550 --> 02:52:34,800
i'm not implying that i do and i'm

4569
02:52:38,389 --> 02:52:36,560
following everything that's going on in

4570
02:52:41,590 --> 02:52:38,399
social media i don't do that i

4571
02:52:45,269 --> 02:52:41,600
i don't have the time but i know

4572
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:45,279
that way too many out there that don't

4573
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:47,040
understand the subject like they think

4574
02:52:51,990 --> 02:52:48,399
that they do

4575
02:52:55,190 --> 02:52:52,000
thought that the hand was

4576
02:52:57,110 --> 02:52:55,200
forced right that the hand was forced

4577
02:52:58,469 --> 02:52:57,120
and this report was going to come out

4578
02:53:00,389 --> 02:52:58,479
and it's going to go to this and it's

4579
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:00,399
going to be the blowout thing and this

4580
02:53:04,790 --> 02:53:02,560
is it and we're going to find out where

4581
02:53:08,630 --> 02:53:04,800
the crash flying saucers are and

4582
02:53:13,590 --> 02:53:12,550
no and it wasn't that and and too many

4583
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:13,600
out there and that's why

4584
02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:16,000
i asked john about this tonight too many

4585
02:53:21,030 --> 02:53:17,439
out there thought that they had this

4586
02:53:24,230 --> 02:53:21,040
dialed right they got this dial back

4587
02:53:26,150 --> 02:53:24,240
they got this they got this and and

4588
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:26,160
you're not going to trick the tricksters

4589
02:53:30,070 --> 02:53:27,600
i mean that just

4590
02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:30,080
it's not going to happen it's not nope

4591
02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:31,120
it's not

4592
02:53:39,349 --> 02:53:35,279
so but my point is to those out there

4593
02:53:42,790 --> 02:53:39,359
uh um are you going to

4594
02:53:45,269 --> 02:53:42,800
keep up the fight do you have the

4595
02:53:47,030 --> 02:53:45,279
energy to keep going i've been at this

4596
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:47,040
for decades

4597
02:53:53,830 --> 02:53:50,160
right decades

4598
02:53:55,110 --> 02:53:53,840
and and this is cool the ua ptf report

4599
02:53:58,469 --> 02:53:55,120
for me was cool

4600
02:54:01,990 --> 02:53:58,479
just just the event itself

4601
02:54:03,910 --> 02:54:02,000
uh was cool but we we

4602
02:54:05,269 --> 02:54:03,920
we're here to fight another day we're

4603
02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:05,279
going to keep on going

4604
02:54:09,030 --> 02:54:06,880
we're going to keep moving this down the

4605
02:54:12,389 --> 02:54:09,040
field somebody just tweeted

4606
02:54:15,030 --> 02:54:12,399
in uh oh oh my bad

4607
02:54:16,389 --> 02:54:15,040
my bad somebody just said the webcam is

4608
02:54:19,670 --> 02:54:16,399
down sat down

4609
02:54:20,230 --> 02:54:19,680
it just didn't get turned on um a fox is

4610
02:54:24,630 --> 02:54:20,240
going

4611
02:54:29,510 --> 02:54:24,640
to uh uh do their special with tmz

4612
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:29,520
this week right and is that in two days

4613
02:54:36,309 --> 02:54:34,080
right i don't know

4614
02:54:37,990 --> 02:54:36,319
but uh but that's coming up too as well

4615
02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:38,000
and we have uh

4616
02:54:43,429 --> 02:54:41,840
jj abrams and his four-part special that

4617
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:43,439
i think is on hbo

4618
02:54:46,630 --> 02:54:45,359
right or showtime that should be good i

4619
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:46,640
look forward to that yep

4620
02:54:53,510 --> 02:54:49,840
yep yep yep um is this

4621
02:54:54,070 --> 02:54:53,520
enough for that that world out there

4622
02:54:57,429 --> 02:54:54,080
that is

4623
02:54:58,870 --> 02:54:57,439
new to this um is it are you gonna are

4624
02:55:01,030 --> 02:54:58,880
you gonna stay with us

4625
02:55:02,070 --> 02:55:01,040
right are you just gonna go away where

4626
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:02,080
your attention

4627
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:06,160
span is only so you know

4628
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:08,080
and that's it you're going to be off

4629
02:55:11,349 --> 02:55:09,359
into a new subject

4630
02:55:13,590 --> 02:55:11,359
and and you're going to walk away from

4631
02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:13,600
this because i saw a lot of uh

4632
02:55:18,389 --> 02:55:16,399
uh email that came in that said jimmy if

4633
02:55:21,750 --> 02:55:18,399
this report doesn't have uh what

4634
02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,760
what i need i'm out i've i've invested

4635
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:23,520
too much time into this and i'm going to

4636
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:24,880
move on to something else i'm going to

4637
02:55:29,910 --> 02:55:26,960
go build model cars and

4638
02:55:30,230 --> 02:55:29,920
and i'm going to get into go-karting and

4639
02:55:35,429 --> 02:55:30,240
and

4640
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:35,439
right to keep their foot on the gas what

4641
02:55:39,910 --> 02:55:37,359
do you think eric

4642
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:39,920
well you the bottom line is this is if

4643
02:55:43,030 --> 02:55:41,279
people really want to know

4644
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,040
they've got to go out there and prove it

4645
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:45,359
to themselves you you know you can read

4646
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:46,800
all the stories you can hear all the

4647
02:55:50,150 --> 02:55:48,080
experts you can listen

4648
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:50,160
read all the reports and you know

4649
02:55:52,389 --> 02:55:51,680
they'll get you excited it'll get you

4650
02:55:53,990 --> 02:55:52,399
interested

4651
02:55:55,670 --> 02:55:54,000
but the bottom line is they're out there

4652
02:55:58,070 --> 02:55:55,680
i've seen them i mean jimmy you see

4653
02:55:59,510 --> 02:55:58,080
i saw him this weekend we were up there

4654
02:56:00,950 --> 02:55:59,520
up on i'm not going to say the mountain

4655
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:00,960
i'll tell you privately but we're up

4656
02:56:04,870 --> 02:56:03,439
there i found a great spot 7 500 feet up

4657
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:04,880
i got the night vision my friends got

4658
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:06,560
the binoculars we're sitting there

4659
02:56:10,870 --> 02:56:09,040
and this multiple objects flying all

4660
02:56:13,510 --> 02:56:10,880
over the place but one in particular

4661
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,520
this guy was this was the guy that

4662
02:56:17,110 --> 02:56:15,120
called in the show a while back talked

4663
02:56:19,510 --> 02:56:17,120
about the lady with the bigfoot

4664
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:19,520
anyway and this one object comes over

4665
02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:21,040
straight over the top of us

4666
02:56:24,389 --> 02:56:22,640
naked eye you don't even need night

4667
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:24,399
vision to see it it was so

4668
02:56:29,429 --> 02:56:27,439
you know vivid and it was bright

4669
02:56:31,110 --> 02:56:29,439
and it looked like it had a little light

4670
02:56:31,590 --> 02:56:31,120
in the front and a bigger light in the

4671
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:31,600
back

4672
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:33,920
and it was connected somehow but if it

4673
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:35,439
was not flashing

4674
02:56:38,790 --> 02:56:37,359
and it was just moving over the top of

4675
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:38,800
us and then all of a sudden it did that

4676
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:40,399
thing like they did in the cloud where

4677
02:56:42,469 --> 02:56:41,760
they would just power up it would just

4678
02:56:45,349 --> 02:56:42,479
kind of

4679
02:56:45,830 --> 02:56:45,359
explode in a burst of light like a star

4680
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:45,840
just

4681
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:49,279
would dim down

4682
02:56:52,630 --> 02:56:51,120
but it kept moving and it did it like

4683
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:52,640
seven times

4684
02:56:56,630 --> 02:56:54,800
and i'm satellites don't do that i mean

4685
02:56:58,070 --> 02:56:56,640
i don't think we've got a secret project

4686
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:58,080
up there that we're experimenting with

4687
02:57:09,269 --> 02:56:58,640
the

4688
02:57:12,710 --> 02:57:09,279
angles

4689
02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:12,720
uh trans could just crossing one another

4690
02:57:17,429 --> 02:57:15,520
and two of the objects as they crossed

4691
02:57:18,309 --> 02:57:17,439
they went into another area going i

4692
02:57:21,830 --> 02:57:18,319
would say going

4693
02:57:22,790 --> 02:57:21,840
south the other object was going west

4694
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:22,800
and as they went

4695
02:57:26,230 --> 02:57:25,600
south they just dimmed out and just

4696
02:57:28,150 --> 02:57:26,240
vanished

4697
02:57:29,429 --> 02:57:28,160
in less than a second i mean you can see

4698
02:57:31,510 --> 02:57:29,439
it happening

4699
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:31,520
they either went into a portal or they

4700
02:57:35,590 --> 02:57:33,520
just shut down their system

4701
02:57:37,190 --> 02:57:35,600
but or they just went so fast that they

4702
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:37,200
just you just they just couldn't see

4703
02:57:40,150 --> 02:57:38,080
them anymore

4704
02:57:41,510 --> 02:57:40,160
but they were there and so this guy was

4705
02:57:44,150 --> 02:57:41,520
convinced i mean we're up there looking

4706
02:57:46,150 --> 02:57:44,160
for bigfoot but we saw lots of ufos i

4707
02:57:47,910 --> 02:57:46,160
could tell you that much

4708
02:57:49,510 --> 02:57:47,920
they're out there they're real they're

4709
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:49,520
they're freaking real

4710
02:57:57,830 --> 02:57:54,160
period the [\h__\h] reason

4711
02:58:01,349 --> 02:57:57,840
wow wow uh somebody just posted uh

4712
02:58:02,630 --> 02:58:01,359
tmz foxes tomorrow night well i've got

4713
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:02,640
the show but i'll watch

4714
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:05,920
uh i'll watch the replay and i'm sure

4715
02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:08,720
just real quickly uh the the week of the

4716
02:58:15,030 --> 02:58:09,600
july

4717
02:58:16,550 --> 02:58:15,040
myself and jeff bernell we're going out

4718
02:58:18,870 --> 02:58:16,560
to skinwalker ranch

4719
02:58:19,750 --> 02:58:18,880
on the seventh eighth and ninth this guy

4720
02:58:22,870 --> 02:58:19,760
uh that this

4721
02:58:23,269 --> 02:58:22,880
jeff burnell knows uh owns the property

4722
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:23,279
that

4723
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:27,760
we have to sign these uh

4724
02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:29,840
release forms in case anything happens

4725
02:58:32,389 --> 02:58:31,040
to be able to go camp

4726
02:58:35,349 --> 02:58:32,399
up there we're going to camp up there

4727
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:35,359
and then the blind frog ranch is 20

4728
02:58:39,590 --> 02:58:36,800
miles from this spot

4729
02:58:40,230 --> 02:58:39,600
i've already contacted chad so we're

4730
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:40,240
going to put

4731
02:58:45,030 --> 02:58:43,279
know

4732
02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:45,040
research team together and we're going

4733
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:46,399
out there and you know if

4734
02:58:49,510 --> 02:58:47,760
i'm sure we'll see stuff i don't know

4735
02:58:51,349 --> 02:58:49,520
what yet but believe me i'll be calling

4736
02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:51,359
and telling you about it if we do

4737
02:58:58,790 --> 02:58:55,520
well uh july 7th 8th and 9th i'm filming

4738
02:59:02,070 --> 02:58:58,800
uh for a new film

4739
02:59:05,269 --> 02:59:02,080
so i'm going to be tied up on those days

4740
02:59:08,389 --> 02:59:05,279
um and i think that's uh

4741
02:59:10,870 --> 02:59:08,399
what wednesday thursday friday 7th

4742
02:59:12,469 --> 02:59:10,880
8th and 9th we'll be out there camp

4743
02:59:14,950 --> 02:59:12,479
we'll be camping on some mountain out

4744
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:14,960
there but like i said the following week

4745
02:59:18,230 --> 02:59:16,640
when we all get when you're home and i'm

4746
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:18,240
home and the show's happening again then

4747
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:20,240
i'll have some stories to tell

4748
02:59:23,349 --> 02:59:22,240
and if brad olson and jeff you know

4749
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:23,359
they've got you know well

4750
02:59:26,150 --> 02:59:24,800
maybe they'll call in or something but

4751
02:59:27,830 --> 02:59:26,160
i'm hoping something's going to happen

4752
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:27,840
because i'm excited about blind broadway

4753
02:59:30,950 --> 02:59:28,720
yeah blind but

4754
02:59:32,309 --> 02:59:30,960
blind guys you got to meet the blind

4755
02:59:34,550 --> 02:59:32,319
frog guys you got to have those

4756
02:59:37,030 --> 02:59:34,560
yeah yeah yeah yeah blind frog i'm all

4757
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:37,040
down for that i wish i could go

4758
02:59:42,710 --> 02:59:39,200
so there you go well thank you so much

4759
02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:42,720
eric um i'm glad that you were uh

4760
02:59:48,309 --> 02:59:45,920
uh the caller tonight uh

4761
02:59:49,830 --> 02:59:48,319
right on my return after a very long

4762
02:59:50,870 --> 02:59:49,840
weekend we have more time i'll have more

4763
02:59:52,550 --> 02:59:50,880
stories to tell you because i just

4764
02:59:53,510 --> 02:59:52,560
skipped over like 10 really good stories

4765
02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:53,520
because we don't have a lot of time

4766
02:59:55,590 --> 02:59:54,000
buddy

4767
02:59:57,190 --> 02:59:55,600
i'll see you tomorrow night thank you so

4768
02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:57,200
much eric all right good night

4769
03:00:01,950 --> 02:59:59,760
right on eric awakening man going up to

4770
03:00:04,230 --> 03:00:01,960
blind frog ranch gonna go on to

4771
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:04,240
skinwalker

4772
03:00:10,150 --> 03:00:08,000
man man man man man but i'm busy

4773
03:00:11,990 --> 03:00:10,160
i was thinking i want to go but i can't

4774
03:00:13,510 --> 03:00:12,000
fade to black's executive producers

4775
03:00:15,269 --> 03:00:13,520
reader come around

4776
03:00:17,030 --> 03:00:15,279
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4777
03:00:18,630 --> 03:00:17,040
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4778
03:00:21,750 --> 03:00:18,640
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4779
03:00:26,230 --> 03:00:21,760
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4780
03:00:28,550 --> 03:00:26,240
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4781
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:28,560
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4782
03:00:33,910 --> 03:00:30,080
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4783
03:00:36,469 --> 03:00:33,920
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4784
03:00:38,150 --> 03:00:36,479
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4785
03:00:38,630 --> 03:00:38,160
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4786
03:00:41,349 --> 03:00:38,640
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4787
03:00:43,110 --> 03:00:41,359
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4788
03:00:44,630 --> 03:00:43,120
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4789
03:00:45,990 --> 03:00:44,640
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4790
03:00:46,790 --> 03:00:46,000
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4791
03:00:48,630 --> 03:00:46,800
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4792
03:00:49,990 --> 03:00:48,640
all right jimmy church tomorrow night

4793
03:00:54,070 --> 03:00:50,000
right here billy

4794
03:00:57,990 --> 03:00:54,080
carson disclosure 101. until then

4795
03:01:13,710 --> 03:00:58,000
i want everybody to be safe it's time to

4796
03:01:13,720 --> 03:01:32,830
[Applause]

4797
03:01:32,840 --> 03:01:43,050
one